Train derailment in Port Richmond - Now

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  1. DCnPhilly

    DCnPhilly Well-Known Member

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    Agreed 100%.
     
  2. phillyTIM

    phillyTIM Well-Known Member

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    Did we already go over how the area is actually called "Frankford", because the crash area sure as heck is NOT "Port Richmond".

    I am quite intrigued as to why media & officials wish to cover up that fact.
     
  3. MNG1324

    MNG1324 Well-Known Member

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    Next time they will just call it PortFishington and cover all bases.
     
  4. hammersklavier

    hammersklavier A Fortnight Dead

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    Mostly because it is, indeed, Port Richmond's northern border. And Frankford proper doesn't begin until you've crossed Frankford Creek. The original Frankford Creek.

    The area around Frankford Junction (the name of the curve) is commonly called "Harrowgate" by locals, but that name isn't as well-known as Port Richmond (which references basically the entirety of northeast Kensington).
     
  5. mixiboi

    mixiboi Philly Remixed

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  6. Jayfar

    Jayfar Junior Old Fart

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    However a later article states that they are still working to determine whether he might have been using some app on the phone; they've only determined that he wasn't texting, talking, using data or wifi.

    NTSB: Engineer not texting, talking when Amtrak 188 derailed | Philadelphia Inquirer

    Then there's the brain fart theory, which to me seems most plausible at this point:

     
  7. luchobucho

    luchobucho Well-Known Member

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    So he was likely playing Candy Crush. Oh well.

    The fact that there aren't many signs warning of curve and/or speed limit going into a curve make me wonder why railroad driving is so antiquated. Memorizing the route?? In this modern day with switches, schedules, septa trains, and track maintenance, some signs would be HELPFUL. If i were the engineer, I'd claim i lost my bearings and there weren't any signs. Thats not a legit excuse, but it certainly makes you wonder why amtrak doesn't markout dangerous segments of track.
     
  8. Jayfar

    Jayfar Junior Old Fart

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    The Wreck of Amtrak 188
    What caused the worst American rail disaster in decades? | NYTimes.com

    and:

    NTSB to release text of interview with Amtrak 188 engineer | Philly.com

     
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  9. Jayfar

    Jayfar Junior Old Fart

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    kat-21 Well-Known Member

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    What a disgrace that man filed a lawsuit!!! I work for a personal injury attorney so I'm probably more sympathetic to an injured party than most people, but not this one. I believe the accident was his entirely his fault. If I were on the jury, I would not give him a dime!!! I hope his case gets dismissed!!!
     
  12. ShoshTrvls

    ShoshTrvls Well-Known Member

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    Glad *you* believe that the crash was entirely his fault, but that isn't how our judicial system works, thank g-d.
     
  13. Jayfar

    Jayfar Junior Old Fart

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    People calling for the engineer's head most likely didn't bother to read the NTSB's final report. Please pay close attention to the extensive discussion of situational awareness.

    Also remember that Amtrak did not have ATC cab signal protection going into the curve for eastbound trains, while they did for westbound. ATC would have automatically slowed the train.

    https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/RAR1602.pdf
     
  14. mixiboi

    mixiboi Philly Remixed

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    This is why people on a jury listen to the evidence in the CASE and not the internet...
     
  15. Tartan69

    Tartan69 Pawn in game of life

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    We're 16 (now 17) years into the 21st century and we still don't have ATC. Smh...

    Hell, I was promised flying cars by now!
     

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