Revel casino ac !!! Yeah baby

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  1. DCnPhilly

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    I went to SugarHouse once to see a friend perform. The restaurant area is appointed nicely (despite the slot machines expectedly embedded into the bar tops) but it very much felt like an afterthought. Bigger restaurant and entertainment space would be a big plus. I doubt I'll be going there anytime soon simply because I don't know too many gamblers, if any at all. But why not give gamblers a reason by way or more entertainment to bring their friends along? A nice restaurant with a good view might be a decent baby step.
     
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    Sure was.
    AC was bustling with a multitude of venues to entertain people, besides the boardwalk, beach, and its sites.
    All the small (and independant) places peppered throughout the city gave people jobs, and places for tourists to gravitate to for their enjoyment.
    Bars, lounges, eateries galore, among other things.
    But then once the massive casinos started rolling into town, things turned "sour" for the many who liked "the way it was" - and even I lost interest in going down there.
    So, the only clientel now was the sinful and "holding out hope for a win" old geezers playing the slots and hoping to catch a Connie Francis show while there.
    And the big casino owners hoping to cash in on the poor suckers.
    Poor city planning if you ask me - and adding smoking bans just fueled the downfall.

    Bottom like, if you keep adding restrictions, laws, and bans on people, they'll eventually go somewhere else.
     
  3. Jayfar

    Jayfar I'm very old®

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    Bankrupt Revel gets OK to give $1.75M in bonuses to its execs | Philadelphia Inquirer

    Access code Z68K

     
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    A Good Way to Wreck a Local Economy: Build Casinos
    No one should look to the gambling industry to revive cities, “because that’s not what casinos do.â€
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    A Good Way to Wreck a Local Economy: Build Casinos - The Atlantic
     
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    No Qualified Bids for Revel Casino: Source | NBC 10 Philadelphia

     
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    Let the gambling metaphor headlines begin . . .

    "Revel rolls snake eyes"
    "Revel reveals an empty hand"
    etc.
     
  9. Jayfar

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    Inevitable, I'm sure, but I'd be impressed if some media outlet skips all the gambling metaphors and goes with:

    "Revel Sh!ts the Bed."
     
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    Well there goes those bonuses.....
     
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    "Revel doubles down on stupidity"
     
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    LOL, now there's an idea. But the beach is a destination attraction, or it should be. Vertical farms wouldn't contribute anymore to the ocean than a wall of casinos.

    AC would probably be better off declaring bankruptcy, eliminating gambling on the boardwalk, using federal funds to do massive demolition, and opening the land to hotel and resort developers that can reinvent AC as the beach destination it should be.
     
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    I know I keep beating this into the ground but the idea of tearing down high-rise hotels to make room for high-rise hotels and resorts is a big waste of time. They just need change the ground floors, the casino floors into boardwalk embracing smaller dining and retail spots, join rooms upstairs to turn them into condos. I think the idea that they are some impenetrable wall blocking the beach is wrong. Its just a whole lot of condos for the local real estate market to absorb at once.
     
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    Revel Casino to shut by Sept. 10 | Philadelphia Inquirer

     
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    Its sad and amazing this thread has survived longer than their casino did.
     
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    Hey I know. All they have to do is scoop Revel out of the sand and drop it on top of Sugar House. They just have to float it on a really, really, really, really big barge. Easy.
     
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    Gov. Christie declared the casino "a turning point for Atlantic City," shortly before it opened April 2, 2012.
    Read more at Revel Casino to shut by Sept. 10

    Well he was right about the turning point, just not in the sense that he intended.
     
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    I guess you're right. They're no more a barrier than the hotels in any other large-ish beach town. The real barriers are the two to four story, windowless gaming barns under the hotels, as well as the gigantic parking podiums and covered streets blocking any hope for "downtown" Atlantic City to be more than pawn shops and "God Saves" freaks.

    Have you seen the parking podium behind the Revel? It looks like it should be showcased on Modern Marvels.
     
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    Revel! Yeah baby!
     
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    The only good news is I'll be able to buy a condo on the ac boardwalk for next to nothing in a year or so
     
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    Gotta admit tho, that would be a badass place to have a little shore crib. Those things might sell like hotcakes at the right price point.
     
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    The amazing thing is they are still advertising. Apparently their "reward points" are like tripled for everything you bet in the next two weeks or something.
     
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    New plan. One immense dollar store, known as Dollar Kingdom!

    Am I the only one who thinks its odd with so many casinos going under in Atlantic City that there are still proposing more at the Meadowlands?

    New Yorkers are not going to go to the Meadowlands to gamble if they can already do it in Yonkers, at this point you are stealing North Jersey gamblers away from A.C.
     
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    I think that question answered itself?? Why wouldn't NJ want to bring gambling to Meadowlands!! Losing gamblers & revenue to PA, NY and they got a horse race track loaded up & ready to go. The levee has broke, AC's a sinking ship, time to put it out to pasture. Allowing gambling at Meadowlands won't entirely canibalize AC's stream of revenue, sure it might take a small cut out of it, but PA, NY & DE already took a pretty big cut out of it, so that ship has sailed. Yonkers is in NY, Meadowlands is in NJ, they want their tax $$.
     
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    Thats why the municipal government of Newark wants it but that $14 a pop bridge fee each way I think keeps the North Jersey gambler more likely to go to AC than to cross to New York. They are no longer gaining out-of-state gambling dollars but in terms of their own in-state revenue, they won't get any new revenue, just shifting even more of it out of A.C. and only to move it somewhere else in the state with no net gain. Which still leaves the state holding the bag for the bottom dropping out in A.C.

    Especially when the new state tax money from the Meadowlands is according to the proposal go down to A.C. anyway to help bail them out.
     
  27. DCnPhilly

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    That might be the best way for NJ to look at it. If Revel can't make it happen in that building, I doubt another gaming company can. The market is saturated with nearby casinos and people no longer need to leave Philly and Baltimore, and they're spreading. AC's gaming industry is going to continue to decline. They don't need to be looking for another gaming company to replace the loss, they need to be looking for new business models to replace the irrelevant ones.

    I have no issue with the AC beach itself. It's a little scuzzier than most, but it's only an hour away and has an unheard of train from Philadelphia. If I had money and someone was selling off bottom barrel studio apartments on the beach, I'd snatch one up for a weekend getaway.

    AC might want to think about it like a lot of cities thought about it after the condo boom crashed. Look to cities like Miami that overbuilt, think of the rooms at the Revel in terms of condo units, not hotel rooms, and do what other cities did to rebound. Politicos in NJ are infuriating though. The state has always known better than any other in its mind, and it seems they'd rather run a dying concept into the ground before admitting they failed and take a cue from anyone else.
     
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    still true
     
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