New Retail Development in Center City and Environs

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  1. londoner

    londoner Well-Known Member

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    I think the point is you can easily lease the lot to a developer under the agreement that XX number of spots are provided in a valet operated underground parking garage. Boyds owns the land. There's no difference to a Boyd's shopper if he pulls into a street parking lot or a garage to have his car valeted. Curb cut stays basically the same. Also, Boyd's could potentially have first look at whatever retail space would be carved out of the new building for expansion or other needs. Not to mention, at current Center City condo/apartment $$ rates, Boyds would be adding dozens of well-heeled potential customers 30 feet from their front door. The city gets rid of a low-performing lot, pedestrians get an improved streetscape, etc. It's seems like a win, win, win, win, win, win all around.
     
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    MNG1324 Well-Known Member

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    Death to all surface lots and most one story buildings in Center City.
     
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    Jayfar I'm very old®

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    I notice you say most. If you had to choose just one 1-story building to keep in Center City, which would it be?

    My choice would be the circa 1952 Sophy Curson store at 19th & Sansom.

    Company History - Sophy Curson

    http://sophycurson.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/SOPHY-CURSON-SHOP-NO-LAMPS.jpg

    The architect was Beryl Price.
    Price, Beryl (1910 - 1978) -- Philadelphia Architects and Buildings

    The architect was married to Bobbie Curson Price, one of the 3 sisters who originally owned the store.

    See page 27 of the CCRA Newsletter, Vol. 2 No. 7 September 2012
    http://www.centercityresidents.org/Resources/Documents/newsletter web version.pdf

    See also:
    http://jewishexponent.com/2016/03/09/keeping-business-all-in-the-family/

    "Three sisters, Sophy Curson, Pearl Curson Goldner and Bobbie Price, were the original owners. The shop started out by catering to petite women because Sophy was short, but eventually expanded its repertoire to offer other sizes."
     
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    I love Sophie's shop - long may she reign.
     
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    Best part of that building is the fact they had to run the chimney up the party wall. It's three times the height of the building. If you never noticed it before, check it out next time you pass.
     
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    For me it would be the CVS at 19th and Chestnut....it obviously in a previous life was an ornate bank.
     
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    Never that. But it was an ornate movie theater, the Aldine, later Sam's Place, and some of its original moulding still exists, hidden by the drop ceiling.

    Sam's Place One and Two in Philadelphia, PA - Cinema Treasures
     
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    That's where I saw the Doors movie in 1991. I forgot about that place. I hope CVS moves and it becomes a restaurant.
     
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    It was also called The Viking for some years. I saw Man for All Seasons there.
     
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    Oh, that's too bad. I liked that store.

    Brick and mortar stores with a big online presence are undermined when the online store has better, or cheaper, deals.
     
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    Tartan69 Pawn in game of life

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    Moser has been in and out before. Their Walnut Street store opened one day and the next day the sidewalk was completely blocked for at least six months - or was it a year. Way to put businesses out of business.
     
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    Thomas Moser could not catch a break here, much was made about their return to Center City, and just after it's opening their was a Flash Mob attack on a late Saturday afternoon that sent people running into stores for cover, Moser included. A CNN story on it showed the littered street with their store in the background, that coupled with the street construction was not a format for prosperity.

    From time to time we talk about the effect that the homeless population has on retail, and to what extent it impacts it.
    Here in Boston we also have homeless in and around the HUB, and I would say it's something that people just deal with.

    However, neither of our cities have an homeless issue that comes close to San Francisco.
    This story from earlier this year addresses an affect on retail that from what I have read has only intensified as this year progresses.

    SF tourist industry struggles to explain street misery to horrified visitors

    Ken
     
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    Tartan69 Pawn in game of life

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    I saw a homeless guy this evening in Suburban Station passed out in a puddle of his own liquid filth. I don't understand how this is acceptable to anyone, nor do I understand the progressive thought process of blind enablement of these people. Because it clearly isn't helping them.

    And we wonder why we're the poorest big city in the country...
     
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    Thank you for passing on this story: there's not a bit of truth to these rumors of trouble here in the Bay Area, but constant repetition of same allows me to keep renting my pied a terre for $450/mo (for wild weekend threesomes...it's just like "Fulll House", only the Playboy Channel version :cool: )
     
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    Are you back in Philadelphia or are you preaching from your cloud in Boston?
     

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