Is Target going to bring down the neighborhood?

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  1. Phillyurban8

    Phillyurban8 Well-Known Member

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    The parking lot is becoming increasingly trashy, their ONE trash receptacle is always overflowing and I walked by the other day and plastic was hanging out of one perimeter tree like garland.
    It's not like Target has that many shoppers but they make twice the trash Whole Foods did, which then gets deposited on the grounds.
     
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    Titus Well-Known Member

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    Odd - how much trash can a Target be producing? Do they sell take out foods? I've never been to a Target store.
     
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    Politburo Well-Known Member

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    Whole Foods doesn't use plastic bags. Target will gladly bag your one item so that you can drop the bag when you get outside. There is also a Starbucks.
     
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    londoner Well-Known Member

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    Wow, welcome to Earth.
     
  5. MackeyDingo

    MackeyDingo REALLY Well-Known Member

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    Do you come in peace? Or are you just looking for competitive prices on everyday items?
     
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  6. Titus

    Titus Well-Known Member

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    Oh I come in peace but I almost never shop. - They sell housewares, right? I have all I need and try to make do - I'm a lousy consumer.
     
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    eldondre Well-Known Member

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    they also sell clothing and grocery items.
    regarding bags, it's 100% self check out
     
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  8. Phillyurban8

    Phillyurban8 Well-Known Member

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    Anyhow back on topic . . . . last Sunday I spent an hour trying to fish dangling plastic out of one of their trees and some kooky lady coming out of the Barnes parking lot had the audacity to ask if I were okay. Lady, this is what picking litter out of the landscape looks like. I know it's a completely foreign idea in Philly.
     
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    fiveomar Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for doing this...we need more people like you in this city.

    Too many people are in their own bubble. Even on our own block, despite having pretty much all good/nice/upstanding neighbors, it's just me and one other neighbor who bother to pick up litter on our block. Our neighbors won't even pick up litter in front of their own homes; I think the mentality is that because they didn't put it there, they're not responsible to clean up.

    I try to make it a habit to pick up random litter everytime I'm walking the dog.
     
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    Hospitalitygirl Resident Ornery Bitch

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    Thank you.
     
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    It's odd, isn't it? Some people really are in a bubble. I rent in a condo building in Callowhill, and a few months ago neighbors (owners) were passing out fliers saying how great this new brewery would be for the neighborhood. That's fine and all, but last summer I got sick of the trash along the street so I went down and started bagging it up. One of the neighbors asked me what I was going to do with the bags. She was more concerned with a few bags of trash setting on the sidewalk for a day than blown open all over the street. They're vested enough in their property to promote a new brewery, but not enough to clean up what they have right now.

    There's a lot of trashy people in Philadelphia, but in Callowhill those with the weirdest ideals are the yuppies (however you want to define them). As long as they have parking at their door, as long as the closest Target or Whole Foods has a parking lot, they're not really concerned about what happens on the street between points A and B. That is until they see someone cleaning up their neighborhood, then they go on the defensive and become a busy body. I just shrugged and said "trash day's Monday. Better in a bag than on the street."

    I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with Target, but it's part of a trend of bigger Big Box chains entering cities. They're suburban in nature and they attract a mentality accustomed to suburban municipalities that regularly clean up their trash, or have less curbside trash to begin with. Seasoned Philadelphians by no means keep our streets clean, but it's interesting to see the clash between those of us who've grown accustomed to the muck (or pick it up ourselves) and the suburban transplants who really have no idea how to handle it.

    And yes, Big Box chains produce a lot of trash, far more than the bodegas and corner stores that preceded them. Plastic bags are just a small token of the garbage they produce. We're talking hundreds of displays that come wrapped in their own boxes, product boxes full of styrofoam and plastic packaging, unsellable products that are discarded, and thousands of cardboard boxes. All of that gets amped up within the confines of urban density. Target isn't going to "bring down the neighborhood," but it does produce a lot of trash. But what I really don't like about Target is the way it cuts into the urban consumer market with its feigned liberal ideology, shutting down local businesses under the guise that Target is anything more than a Walmart with better lighting.
     
  12. Phillyurban8

    Phillyurban8 Well-Known Member

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    ^Better lighting!?

    We need to keep watch on this Target. It's going to be a problem child, I know.
     
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    Before it was target it was whole foods and before that, fresh fields. I see a good number of people walking in and out of the store. The bodega near my house generates less trash because it serves less people but it too is surrounded by trash. If you'e lucky enough to have a city issued trash can the city doesn't empty it often and it overflows. Filthadelphia predates yuppies and big box stores. The government has abandoned its city services, residents seem to have no pride. There are exceptions but it can be frustrating. You clean up and within two days it' back because nobody bags their trash properly and it breaks open on trash day
     
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    I went past today on the bus and there wasn't a hint of litter anywhere I could see.
     
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    OakmontGuy NE Philadelphia Proud!

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    The one that opened up here in Northeast Philadelphia where the Orleans Theater used to be certainly is. Trash blowing around everywhere. Trash cans overflowing. Carts scattered everywhere, including the surrounding streets. Increased traffic. Crime. Basically, all the things that the neighborhood expressed concern about before they built it and were told wouldn't/couldn't happen.

    Their trucks rumble through the surrounding streets and park on them overnight, despite all the signs prohibiting such activities. Yes, they get reported. Yes, they get ticketed. Yes, they still do it. All. The. Time.

    "Carts won't be a problem," they said, "because we'll be using a cart management system that keeps them from going off our lot." Uh huh. Right. Guess someone forgot to tell the carts about that, because you can find them EVERYWHERE in the surrounding neighborhood.

    tldr: The title of this thread should be changed to "WHEN Is Target going to bring down the neighborhood?"
     
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  16. Phillyurban8

    Phillyurban8 Well-Known Member

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    ^Sounds like Philadelphia West Target.

    Our little "Targette" isn't that bad yet, but I will be keeping my eye on it and I already wrote the store manager.

    Btw "Targette" is a little name I coined myself. Feel free to use it. It's pronounced "tar-GETT"
     
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  17. fiveomar

    fiveomar Well-Known Member

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    How did you get the storage manager's email? Is it posted on the Target website for each location?
     
  18. Phillyurban8

    Phillyurban8 Well-Known Member

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    ^Huh? I typed a letter and put it in the mail . . . USPS? :)
     
  19. fiveomar

    fiveomar Well-Known Member

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    Did you use a typewriter too? ;) Nice work.
     

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