What a sad and unfulfilling death of a thread . . . It is clear that the emotional and hyperbolic and histrionic is where you anti-gun liberals are at home and that it is best if you don't wander too far from your comfort zone. All the pretending and puffery is just wasted energy and bandwidth and holds no interest. The denigration and ridicule of using a factual foundation for debate and writing of laws is just comical and (should be) embarrassing. The most amusing is when you assume that others have no clue (simply because they disagree with you) and then confidently challenge them to support their position. When they do you seem surprised and overwhelmed and run away like a scalded cat. This thread should be re-titled, "Why Liberals Always Lose Gun Control Arguments". The tired program of emoting yourselves into a position, cementing it in your mind with ridicule of your opponent and then abandoning discussion when the debate turns on facts and supported argument, is not challenging or compelling and it's never convincing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, just gloating -- your approach is appreciated and and you certainly are encouraged to keep it up! .