F--- Facebook!

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  1. Jayfar

    Jayfar I'm very old®

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    Facebook is a garbage piece of software; lots of glitches and the privacy is terrible- literally anyone can see what you've commented on or "liked" even if you don't want that to be displayed (there is literally no option to prevent this).

    Facebook hasn't been overthrown yet because they have critical mass/too large a user base. But their time will eventually come.
     
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    wow! what a zombie thread revival! haha

    i thought Chief Salsa started posting here again?
    what's he up to now a days? still in utah?
     
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    If you were his friend on Facebook, you'd know the answers to those questions. :)
     
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    OakmontGuy NE Philadelphia Proud!

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    I've never "had" "A Facebook", and never will. I'm a certified technophile and most folks would expect someone like me to have one of the oldest accounts on there. Nope.

    It does make for some interesting conversations, though. One person accused me of being a spy or using a false identity because they couldn't find me on there. Others have tried to "convert" me: "You don't know what you're missing! It's SO great! Blah blah blah."

    It IS extremely useful as a forensics tool, for both good and evil purposes. For example, when it comes to job applicants, you can get answers for a lot of questions that you're...not allowed to ask anymore. And if you happen to rob houses, it makes finding out when people are on/will be going on vacation pretty darn easy.

    We won't even go into how easy it is to gain information for use in social engineering attacks from Facebook. If you have even a fraction of the skills of a "Kevin Mitnick," Facebook is truly your friend.
     
  7. MarketStEl

    MarketStEl Will Work for Food, But Prefers Cash

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    Yes, still in Utah. I got a note from him via ... Facebook Messenger ... earlier this week. Something about some other Sandy Smith.
     
  8. phillyaggie

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    Good stuff.
    I'm happy to be on Facebook and at least be online friends with many of you; we may not meet often and some I've in fact never met even though we've exchanged quite a few conversations online!

    yeah, i guess i'm not friends with chief salsa on facebook. i don't know his real name.
     
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    These articles make me very happy I've refused to join Facebook.

    My wife's sister-in-law couldn't believe we weren't going to post pics of our kid when she was born.

    "But how will we get to see her?!" uhhh...we'll send you a picture in the mail, or maybe one to your email/phone.

    If I haven't reached out to a particular person in the almost 30 years since I graduated from high school, odds are that I have no interest in taking to them now.
     
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    Facebook in freefall as weak outlook stuns market | Daily Maverick

    After-hours trade saw Facebook shares plunge by some 21 percent, wiping out an estimated $130 billion in market value if the slump is confirmed at Thursday’s market opening.

    The second-quarter report sparked initial selling after it showed revenue and user growth came up short of expectations.

    Profit was up 31 percent in the second quarter at $5.1 billion; revenues rose 42 percent to $13.2 billion, slightly below most forecasts.

    Selling pressure accelerated when chief financial officer David Wehner warned in a call with analysts of a weaker outlook in the coming quarter.

    Wehner said revenue growth “decelerated” in the second quarter and will decline “by high single digit percentages” and added that “we are also giving people who use our services more choices around data privacy which may have an impact on our revenue growth.”

    On the call, Jefferies & Co. analyst Brent Thill said that “many investors are having a hard time reconciling that deceleration… It just seems like the magnitude is beyond anything we’ve seen.”

    Ross Gerber, an analyst at Gerber Kawasaki, said the latest figures suggest that the tide may be turning for Facebook and other social networks.

    “Social Media has peaked,” Gerber said on Twitter. “We told you last qtr and now we’re seeing it.”


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    Facebook’s Record Selloff Drags Down Other Tech Stocks | Bloomberg
     
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    Forums are coming back! :rolleyes:
     
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    Delay, Deny and Deflect: How Facebook’s Leaders Fought Through Crisis | NYTimes.com

    By Sheera Frenkel, Nicholas Confessore, Cecilia Kang, Matthew Rosenberg and Jack Nicas
    Nov. 14, 2018


    Sheryl Sandberg was seething.

    Inside Facebook’s Menlo Park, Calif., headquarters, top executives gathered in the glass-walled conference room of its founder, Mark Zuckerberg. It was September 2017, more than a year after Facebook engineers discovered suspicious Russia-linked activity on its site, an early warning of the Kremlin campaign to disrupt the 2016 American election. Congressional and federal investigators were closing in on evidence that would implicate the company.

    But it wasn’t the looming disaster at Facebook that angered Ms. Sandberg. It was the social network’s security chief, Alex Stamos, who had informed company board members the day before that Facebook had yet to contain the Russian infestation. Mr. Stamos’s briefing had prompted a humiliating boardroom interrogation of Ms. Sandberg, Facebook’s chief operating officer, and her billionaire boss. She appeared to regard the admission as a betrayal.

    “You threw us under the bus!” she yelled at Mr. Stamos, according to people who were present.

    The clash that day would set off a reckoning — for Mr. Zuckerberg, for Ms. Sandberg and for the business they had built together. In just over a decade, Facebook has connected more than 2.2 billion people, a global nation unto itself that reshaped political campaigns, the advertising business and daily life around the world. Along the way, Facebook accumulated one of the largest-ever repositories of personal data, a treasure trove of photos, messages and likes that propelled the company into the Fortune 500.


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    While Mr. Zuckerberg conducted a public apology tour in the last year, Ms. Sandberg has overseen an aggressive lobbying campaign to combat Facebook’s critics, shift public anger toward rival companies and ward off damaging regulation. Facebook employed a Republican opposition-research firm to discredit activist protesters, in part by linking them to the liberal financier George Soros. It also tapped its business relationships, persuading a Jewish civil rights group to cast some criticism of the company as anti-Semitic.

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    Also: Facebook Failed to Police How Its Partners Handled User Data | NYTimes.com
     
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    Jayfar I'm very old®

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    Oops, busted!

    Facebook Cuts Ties With Washington Firm That Sought to Discredit Social Network’s Critics | NYTimes.com

    SAN FRANCISCO — Facebook said Thursday that it had ended its relationship with a Washington-based consulting firm, Definers Public Affairs, which spread disparaging information about the social network’s critics and competitors.

    The move followed a New York Times article on Wednesday that described the kind of work that Definers did on Facebook’s behalf. Among other things, Definers worked to discredit activist protesters that were against Facebook, in part by linking them to the liberal financier George Soros. It also tried to deflect criticism of the social network by pressing reporters to look into rivals like Google.

    Late Wednesday, Facebook decided to terminate its relationship with Definers after the publication of the Times article prompted an outcry, said a person familiar with the matter, who was not authorized to speak publicly. Top Facebook executives including Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg were not aware of the specific work being done by Definers, the person said.


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    Walt Mossberg, Veteran Technology Journalist, Quits Facebook | NYTimes.com

    Walt Mossberg is far from alone in giving up on Facebook. But as a leading technology journalist who has spent decades chronicling the impact of Silicon Valley’s policies, his exit from the social network speaks louder than most.

    Mr. Mossberg, a veteran of The Wall Street Journal, The Verge and Recode, said on Monday he would be deactivating his Facebook account, along with the Facebook-owned Messenger and Instagram apps.

    “I am doing this — after being on Facebook for nearly 12 years — because my own values and the policies and actions of Facebook have diverged to the point where I’m no longer comfortable here,” he wrote on Facebook.

    While Mr. Mossberg didn’t list any specific complaints on Monday, his history of public writing left little doubt that his ire was aimed largely at the company’s policies and actions on user privacy. He declined to comment when reached by email.


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    As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening for Tech Giants | NYTimes.com

    For years, Facebook gave some of the world’s largest technology companies more intrusive access to users’ personal data than it has disclosed, effectively exempting those business partners from its usual privacy rules, according to internal records and interviews.

    The special arrangements are detailed in hundreds of pages of Facebook documents obtained by The New York Times. The records, generated in 2017 by the company’s internal system for tracking partnerships, provide the most complete picture yet of the social network’s data-sharing practices. They also underscore how personal data has become the most prized commodity of the digital age, traded on a vast scale by some of the most powerful companies in Silicon Valley and beyond.

    The exchange was intended to benefit everyone. Pushing for explosive growth, Facebook got more users, lifting its advertising revenue. Partner companies acquired features to make their products more attractive. Facebook users connected with friends across different devices and websites. But Facebook also assumed extraordinary power over the personal information of its 2.2 billion users — control it has wielded with little transparency or outside oversight.

    Facebook allowed Microsoft’s Bing search engine to see the names of virtually all Facebook users’ friends without consent, the records show, and gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ private messages.

    The social network permitted Amazon to obtain users’ names and contact information through their friends, and it let Yahoo view streams of friends’ posts as recently as this summer, despite public statements that it had stopped that type of sharing years earlier.


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    It has been an interesting week in news of Facebook versus privacy*.

    Facebook pays teens to install VPN that spies on them | TechCrunch.com

    Maybe Only Tim Cook Can Fix Facebook’s Privacy Problem | NYTimes.com

    Apple Shows Facebook Who Has the Power in an App Dispute | NYTimes.com

    Facebook’s Profits and Revenue Climb as It Gains More Users | NYTimes.com
    SAN FRANCISCO — Facebook’s worst year ever was its best year ever when it came to its business.

    After a string of scandals in 2018 damaged its reputation and raised questions about its handling of people’s data, the social network said Wednesday that it had gained new users around the world in the fourth quarter and reported a record profit. Facebook also posted its full results for 2018, which showed its total revenue and profit reaching record levels.

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    *Oh, and Google was doing something similar, until TechCrunch called them out on it this week:
    Google will stop peddling a data collector through Apple’s back door | TechCrunch.com
     
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  22. phillyaggie

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    Facebook seems to be petering out...

    I don't have as many interactions there as in the past. I post stuff on my page that I read or find interesting, I sometimes scroll through to see others' updates but not as often as in the past; the group pages over there have sucked the life out of the "general" facebook it seems.
     

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