Donald Trump Elected President

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  1. Jayfar

    Jayfar I'm very old®

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    I agree. A true constitutional crisis is an un-elected deep state cabal undermining the president.
     
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    Thing is that term was/is used to describe career officials who are not appointed. In this case the op-ed is purportedly written by someone nominated by Trump.
     
  4. Tartan69

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    Given that Trump has drug his feet on putting his own people in place in numerous departmental roles, odds are almost certainly not insignificant that it was written by someone nominated by Obama.

    Will have to see if I can find exact numbers on that online somewhere...
     
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    I would guess this is more of a criminal seditious act, not necessarily a constitutional crisis. Possibly even treason instead of sedition if collusion with a foreign power is happening in conjunction. But I'm not a constitutional scholar, so........
     
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    I think the odds are zero. First, the writer includes themselves with "Trump appointees". They say they love the deregulation, etc.. which does not sound like an Obama official. They talk about 'conservative ideals'. And what 'senior' official is still hanging around more than 18 months in? I don't think the NYT would have published this from some deputy undersecretary.
     
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    I must have glossed over the "Trump appointees" part. I do agree with the dereg/ideals part. Disagree on hanging around...this is a civil servant we're talking about here.

    Given the shenanigans going on these days, very little is surprising me in regards to the activities of our media and government.
     
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    Political appointees aren't civil servants. Regardless, you have an example?
     
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    I think by "Constitutional Crisis" the author meant that we'd see a court case brought to say the invocation of the 25th was fraudulent or something. Republicans and the MAGAs will not go quietly, even if he were to devolve into a raving lunatic or publicly commit a serious crime. It was interesting hearing an pundit talking about how the Secret Service would likely need to drag Trump out of the Oval Office should Pence take over.
     
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    #1182 Jayfar, Nov 16, 2018
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    Tartan69 Pawn in game of life

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    I'm not sure how due process is even relevant here. As the article states, the rules around the White House press corps is based on custom rather than any kind of legal framework. I would guess that this might have trouble surviving appeals and/or SCOTUS review.

    Having said that, it is definitely bad form and bad PR to not have a more formal policy outlining what is acceptable and what is not. Corporations get around this kind of thing all the time by pointing at pre-defined policies and procedures. Big picture, one wonders if more formal rules are really a good thing for the press corps in the long run? Takes away their ability to play in that fuzzy area, plus makes it far easier for any POTUS to just circumvent them completely.

    As always, not a lawyer and not a journalist, so admit my interpretation could be flawed.
     
  13. Phillyxpat

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    White House does not have to admit anyone from the press. Press has a right to publish, Do not have entitlement to ask for clarification of facts in the potus's big house. imo
     
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    Yes! Her emails. Yes! Her secret server in her private home. She thought she was so smart... 'Nobody would dare look into their shenanigans. ... Wrong.
     

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