Donald Trump Elected President

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  1. MackeyDingo

    MackeyDingo REALLY Well-Known Member

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    So, in light of the wife beating secretary Trump refused to get rid of, an interesting idea has been floating around.

    What % of Trump's appointments and staff people are credibly accused of breaking the law? (Some have admitted, some have been served subpoenas, some are accused with multiple accusers and credible secondhand sources confirming them)

    What % of immigrants are criminals?

    What % of DACA eligible people are criminals?
     
  2. Jayfar

    Jayfar I'm very old®

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    Trump to unveil $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan | Philly.com

    The administration's plan is centered on using $200 billion in federal money to leverage local and state tax dollars to fix America's infrastructure, such as roads, highways, ports and airports.
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    Officials said the $200 billion in federal support would come from cuts to existing programs.

    Smoke and mirrors for the win!
     
  3. MackeyDingo

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    Such a huge improvement from this bill. That they refused to even consider.

    Democratic infrastructure bill would have paid for improvements by instituting a 14% tax on the 3 trillion in profits held overseas. The new GOP tax bill instituted a 14% rate on this same money.

    Same idea, only better, but its proposed by "that guy," so we hate it.

    "Senate Republicans defeated a Democratic amendment to the proposed 2016 budget on Tuesday. It was aimed at kick-starting negotiations between the White House and Congress over a new multi-year program for funding highway, bridge and other infrastructure projects.
    "The amendment, offered by Democratic socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), called for $478 billion in new spending over six years but without increasing the deficit. The amendment went down 52 to 45 along party lines.
    "Sanders, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, had argued his plan was “deficit neutral.” Hundreds of billions in new spending would have been offset by closing a number of corporate tax breaks that allow some major companies to escape paying taxes or stash profits overseas. But Republicans objected and said a large tax increase on business was not the right economic plan. They want to create a new “deficit neutral reserve fund” to supplement federal infrastructure spending."


    $478B Infrastructure Bill Blocked by Senate GOP
     
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    Recall that when Odysseus returned to Ithaca from the war, he found his house filled with traitors. What did the he do to these men, woman, and priests?

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    Well I’m just saying. It’s a 2000 year old classic.
     
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  5. OldMama

    OldMama Finally retired. Newly married. Kids are gone.

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    Like others, I'm sickened by the president's support of abusers and apparent disregard for the victims. Even if you have doubt of Porter's guilt, I see a serious problem. We had a White House secretary who could not get a security clearance handling highly classified information. (Maybe even reading it to the Dyxlexic in Chief who doesn't like to read.) How nice.

    Question: Could the President himself have gotten a security clearance? Should a requirement of holding the office be that the candidate must be able to get a security clearance?
     
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    As a person who has been through the security clearance background check process, I find it very unlikely that Trump would get a clearance.
    Any situation or circumstance that creates a position of leverage over you is disqualifying.
    • His lying alone would disqualify him. (Note that this anticipates a level of shame on being caught in a lie. There is no evidence that Trump can feel shame. So its not clear that his lying should be a disqualifier for THAT reason. But in that case, a person like that can't be trusted to be honest with the intelligence services either, and that is the ultimate disqualifier.)
    • But his significant foreign business, especially Russian, would also be a disqualifier.
    • Lying about meeting with foreign agents, also obviously disqualifying.
    And that's just from what we know. They have to look at your finances, that means tax returns, and any foreign holdings are essentially considered derogatory.
    • That time you cheated on your wife, disqualifying.
    • That time you hit your wife. Disqualifying.
    • Relationships with criminals, DQ'ed.
    • When you lied to the FBI about any of that. Disqualifying.
    • Really, the biggest and boldest lie is one Donald tells everyday. That comb-over is the most insulting lie so far. It seems to me that Donnie's pride is such that, given a sufficiently embarrassing photo, he would go to untold lengths to suppress it. This is only a half joke. Russians look for excessive pride in their targets for this very reason. They are easier to manipulate.
     
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    Also, it turns out people hate working for an unstable idiot.

    "More than one in three Trump administration staffers have left the White House in its first year, a pace that far eclipses the rate of departures in the previous five White Houses, according to a study done by Kathryn Dunn Tenpas of the Brookings Institute.
    The pace of resignations, firings and other assorted departures from the Trump White House is twice what it was in George W. Bush's first year as president and triple that of Barack Obama's first year in office.
    And, it's not just any sorts of departures; a large number of Trump's senior-most staff have left in the first year alone. Writes Dunn Tenpas:"


    "Six of the 12 Tier One positions saw turnover (Reince Priebus, chief of staff; Katie Walsh, deputy chief of staff; Sean Spicer, press secretary; George Sifakis, assistant to the president and director of the Office of Public Liaison; Michael Flynn, national security adviser, and KT McFarland, deputy national security adviser). By comparison, Obama lost one adviser from Tier One (Greg Craig, White House counsel), and George W. Bush did not see any turnover in these high-level positions."

    People are leaving the Trump White House in record numbers - CNNPolitics
     
  8. OldMama

    OldMama Finally retired. Newly married. Kids are gone.

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    My husband has been saying the same for a while. He also has a security clearance from his years of aircraft design and modification work. Over the years, he had some personal experiences that required additional questioning to maintain his clearance. He says these were NOTHINGS compared to things Trump could be questioned about. You named most of those, but with the addition of the comb over.
     
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    OldMama Finally retired. Newly married. Kids are gone.

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    By the way, have we lost Bix again? Too many big words? His Bold button break?
     
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    We might even be beyond what Bix can defend.

    Honestly, if I was a conservative and I was virulently anti Hillary, and I became a trump supporter as a result, I’d be absolutely dismayed and deflated.

    This is a person who is indefensible without hypocrisy or lies.
    He’s not a conservative, he has no fixed beliefs that don’t affect him personally, but at least his lack of principle allows typical conservative orthodoxy to reign. Except be constantly stomps on the momentum and makes everything about his total moral sewagery.

    And all that ignores national security conservatives who have no positive elements to look to. He’s the national security disaster thatone might expect from a Manchurian candidate.
     
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    OldMama Finally retired. Newly married. Kids are gone.

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    I have some friends who voted for Trump. Mostly folks with military backgrounds themselves or with kids in the military. They were still happy with their choice until Flynn pleaded guilty. The spectre of a general in the United States Army dealing as he did with Russia was just too much for them to bear. They just shake their heads. I know that my Admiral FIL and my late husband, both USNA graduates, would be appalled. I truly believe neither of them would have voted for Trump.
     
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    Judge rules against Trump in case over immigration program | Associated Press

    U.S. District Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis in Brooklyn said in a written order that the Republican president "indisputably" has the power to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program but relied on flawed legal positions in doing so.

    Garaufis said the Trump administration relied on an "erroneous" belief the program was unconstitutional. His ruling mirrors one issued in San Francisco in January.

    "DACA is not unconstitutional simply because it was implemented by unilateral, executive action without express congressional authorization," Garaufis said. He said Congress has acknowledged the executive branch's power to decline to remove some vulnerable immigrants otherwise subject to deportation from the country.

    The judge ordered the government to let people already in the DACA program continue enjoying protections but declined to guarantee the program to new applicants.


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