Torts's Just How Sick is Apple Thread (bring napkin to thread)

**hkp** · 08-22-2012, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by phillyaggie

That's likely for the oil "in place"-- discovered and likely recoverable. And it was likely a multiple of that oil number times oil price at that time, which hit a high of $150+ before quickly retreating to below $50 and now hovering around $100. So yeah, Aramco's oil value is much lower than that figure, right now.

But that's a stupendously high figure, isn't it?! Most national GDPs don't amount to that much. Heck, even some G7 GDPs don't add up to AAPL's current market value. You have to wonder if that can be sustainable.

At this point it's going to take years to disrupt their momentum. There isn't any real competition in the near future for either the iPhone or the iPad - and even when there is, current users are too invested in the iOS ecosystem to move. My hope is they move into TV very soon, get success with cable subsidies, and keep riding the wave once Microsoft and Samsung/Motorola truly make dents in iPhone's footprint. Truth be told, iPhone isn't a gigantic seller when units sold are taken into consideration. The profitability is just absurd.

**Winston** · 08-22-2012, 01:22 PM

If they lose the court case against Samsung, it'll be open season on iOS copycatting. That's a risk. And I do worry that the iPhone 5 might disappoint. The leaked prototypes look nearly identical to the 4 and 4S, but with a bigger screen. I kind of wish they'd move away from this one-phone-per-year release schedule. Too much hype builds up, plus the market knows when to anticipate it now. They don't need 30 different phones, but two or three distinctly different form factors updated at different cycles would offer more variety and keep the market guessing.

**Winston** · 08-24-2012, 06:25 PM

A verdict in the Apple v. Samsung case is coming within minutes. The jury was asked to decide on 700 specific claims of infringement — and they did all that in just three days of deliberation. So, it'll either be very good or very bad for Apple. No way did the jury seriously ponder all 700 questions at any length.

**Winston** · 08-24-2012, 06:54 PM

So far, most of Apple's claims of infringement are being upheld. We still need to hear the damages awarded (Apple asked for $2.5 billion). Then there are counterclaims from Samsung against Apple. If those go to Samsung, it's an ambiguous outcome and not much money changes hands. If not, Apple wins in a rout.

**Winston** · 08-24-2012, 07:05 PM

Apple gets $1 billion and change...

**ShoshTrvls** · 08-24-2012, 07:09 PM

Up $9 + after hours, and the verdict is about 5 minutes old.

**ShoshTrvls** · 08-24-2012, 07:26 PM

And just hit its all time high

**Winston** · 08-24-2012, 07:32 PM

No damages awarded to Samsung.

Not every claim went Apple's way, but most of the important ones did. The money hardly matters to Apple. It's the legal precedent that is the real win today, as it'll scare off other companies from borrowing too heavily from Apple's product line in the future. Or at least it should.

Apple gets vindication. Samsung gets humiliated in public. Consumers get distinctly different products to choose from in the future. Pretty fair all around.

**hkp** · 08-24-2012, 09:29 PM

**hkp** · 08-25-2012, 04:31 PM

AllThingsD: iPad mini event to be held in October separate from Sept. iPhone event | 9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence

**torts** · 08-25-2012, 06:33 PM

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=FXY&...z=l&q=l&c=aapl

**torts** · 08-25-2012, 06:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxchPg3Ty9s

**torts** · 08-25-2012, 06:37 PM

**mixiboi** · 08-25-2012, 09:30 PM

Now I guess that means that I won't get a new iPod Nano till October now..:/

**BrianL** · 08-26-2012, 09:30 PM

wonder if we will see $700 by the end of the month?

**mixiboi** · 08-26-2012, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by BrianL

wonder if we will see $700 by the end of the month?

No, but right before the iPhone 5 press conference...

**torts** · 08-27-2012, 08:49 AM

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**hkp** · 08-27-2012, 10:10 AM

The NFC chip for the iPhone 5 just leaked. The only parts at this point to not leak are the battery and the screen. The NFC chip falls in line with the Passport app and the following patent win:

iPhone 5 is going to be BIG.

**Winston** · 08-27-2012, 10:46 AM

Samsung share price drops on Apple patent ruling - CNN.com

Samsung dropped 6.3% at the open of South Korea's Kospi index and finished the day down 7.45%, after dropping as much as 7.7%. The tumble erased about $12 billion from the company's market value Monday.