Is your stance on gay marriage in line with whatever faith you practice?

**Marquis** · 06-23-2012, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by toxigal

are you capable of having a conversation/discussion without turning it into a "liberal v. conservative" stupidity contest?

Typical librul response.

**DCnPhilly** · 06-23-2012, 04:05 PM

Call it what you want. I just want the same rights and privileges that come with marriage.

**2happy4u** · 07-02-2012, 08:24 PM

it's just a unnatural act. should we let brother & sister, or mom & son get married?

**enyo** · 07-02-2012, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by 2happy4u

it's just a unnatural act. should we let brother & sister, or mom & son get married?

what is your definition of unnatural? homosexuality has been observed in over a thousand animal species.

Same-Sex Behavior Seen In Nearly All Animals, Review Finds

**toxigal** · 07-02-2012, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by enyo

what is your definition of unnatural? homosexuality has been observed in over a thousand animal species.

Same-Sex Behavior Seen In Nearly All Animals, Review Finds

i think what 2happy4u meant to say was "icky".

**toxigal** · 07-02-2012, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by 2happy4u

it's just a unnatural act. should we let brother & sister, or mom & son get married?

getting married is an unnatural act?

**2happy4u** · 07-03-2012, 11:56 PM

marring a son & mother is unnatural act. Do I believe 2 men/woman having sex is unnatural, absolutely. but hey, you can do as you please. who cares what wild animals do?

**loveisnoise** · 07-04-2012, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by 2happy4u

marring a son & mother is unnatural act. Do I believe 2 men/woman having sex is unnatural, absolutely. but hey, you can do as you please. who cares what wild animals do?

You should really understand the definition of words before using them in your arguments.

**seand** · 07-04-2012, 12:28 AM

to the original question -
Wanted to avoid this topic but its been long enough. Raised Quaker, dad is an untypical to Americans (very typical to Japanese) sect of Buddhism. Done a lot a reading on Buddhism generally, am by nature a bit of a skeptic. By any measure, Quakerism, Buddhism, with very liberal doses of agnosticism- yes, all of my faith traditions are accepting and supportive with a much heavier emphasis on "you will find your path through reflection", don't look to us for simple "Though shalt nots" - it's not that simple.

**loveisnoise** · 07-04-2012, 05:26 AM

Wow. Really man?

You're putting your beliefs onto those practices to make them better than others.

My Christian life also says that homosexuality is ok. Others? Not so much.

Quakerism?! Seriously? No. It is as disjointed as Christianity, and you can't clump it all into a nutshell.

Buddhism? Now you are either ignorant or just lying. They plainly have unaccepted terms of sexual conduct, and some Buddhists find that to mean homosexuality.

Agnostics? 20% are against gay marriage.

Rock out with your cock out-but quit lying about your own multitude of faiths. Learn one before talking for them.

Originally Posted by seand

to the original question -
Wanted to avoid this topic but its been long enough. Raised Quaker, dad is an untypical to Americans (very typical to Japanese) sect of Buddhism. Done a lot a reading on Buddhism generally, am by nature a bit of a skeptic. By any measure, Quakerism, Buddhism, with very liberal doses of agnosticism- yes, all of my faith traditions are accepting and supportive with a much heavier emphasis on "you will find your path through reflection", don't look to us for simple "Though shalt nots" - it's not that simple.

**FKD19124** · 07-04-2012, 07:17 AM

How does Christianity say that homosexuality is ok?

Originally Posted by loveisnoise

Wow. Really man?

You're putting your beliefs onto those practices to make them better than others.

My Christian life also says that homosexuality is ok. Others? Not so much.

Quakerism?! Seriously? No. It is as disjointed as Christianity, and you can't clump it all into a nutshell.

Buddhism? Now you are either ignorant or just lying. They plainly have unaccepted terms of sexual conduct, and some Buddhists find that to mean homosexuality.

Agnostics? 20% are against gay marriage.

Rock out with your cock out-but quit lying about your own multitude of faiths. Learn one before talking for them.

**FKD19124** · 07-04-2012, 07:19 AM

certain animal species eat their young too. should we start to allow that?
yeah certain animal species have been observed doing that but how do we know for sure it is that?

Originally Posted by enyo

what is your definition of unnatural? homosexuality has been observed in over a thousand animal species.

Same-Sex Behavior Seen In Nearly All Animals, Review Finds

**FKD19124** · 07-04-2012, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by toxigal

if a gay couple is married in a church, are they married?

in the eyes of God....no.

**2happy4u** · 07-04-2012, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by loveisnoise

My Christian life also says that homosexuality is ok.

Is this some sort of "new age" Christianity? I don't know of any religion that condones homosexuality. Sounds like you're mixing secular views with religion.

**OldMama** · 07-04-2012, 10:12 AM

Episcopalians (definitely Christians) have gay priests and at least one gay bishop. So they apparently are a religion that condones homosexuality.

**loveisnoise** · 07-04-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by FKD19124

How does Christianity say that homosexuality is ok?

I misspoke. Just as some sects of other religions have differing views, the part of Christianity I belong to (evangelical Lutheran) is cool with gay couples, and has gay pastors.

**loveisnoise** · 07-04-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by 2happy4u

Is this some sort of "new age" Christianity? I don't know of any religion that condones homosexuality. Sounds like you're mixing secular views with religion.

Gee- didn't know Lutherans were new age?!

**caL** · 07-04-2012, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by FKD19124

As far as women "priests", I'll go listen to a bunch of angry feminists if I want to listen
to them.

As a practicing Catholic, I find this line ridiculous. I'm sure your respect of the nun's is on par if not greater than your respect of the priest.

**seand** · 07-04-2012, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by loveisnoise

Rock out with your cock out-but quit lying about your own multitude of faiths. Learn one before talking for them.

I'm pretty sure you are just trying to be sarcastic. So I should ask for your personal approval (because you are the ultimate arbitrator of other people's religions aparently) before attempting to summarize the one and perhaps only link shared by two very different religious traditions - that a practice of deep introspection is more relevant than an easily enumerated list of "these the rules" and as result both practices have embraced and been embraced by same-sex couples.

**DCnPhilly** · 07-04-2012, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by 2happy4u

Is this some sort of "new age" Christianity? I don't know of any religion that condones homosexuality. Sounds like you're mixing secular views with religion.

So are you or you wouldn't be on your computer judging people.

As for your unnatural comment, quite simply anything that happens in nature is natural. While I don't societally agree with this, what I think you meant to say was that homosexuality is abnormal. Anything that interferes with species' ability to reproduce and thus evolve is an abnormality. In that case most of what humans do is abnormal, including taking a single mate, curing diseases, or using air conditioners.

In that respect, if homosexuality is a reproductive abnormality it contributes less to the genetic dilution of our DNA than Christianity. Not that it matters to someone who doesn't believe in evolution. But if you truly are devout and believe in your religion, you'd be leaving judgment up to your God, unless you think he's incapable. In which case your playing God, and isn't playing God the ultimate sin?