South Street West is HOT, HOT, HOT...

[darthsinatra]

While we're talking about people ruining PhiladelphiaSpeaks.com™, and about suburban friends:

Don't forget to pour one out tonight for randomuser.

On that note, what happened to loveisnoise?

[LUCas]

Actual event would be.


Scene: Monk's, 16th and Spruce. A blustery Saturday night in November, about 11:45.]

Narberth Guy: Honey, last train leaves soon. Should we run to catch it, or do you think we can afford $15 for a cab home?

24th and South Guy: Let's order some more $15 beers first.

Narberth guy: Ok. Heck, maybe I'll spend an extra $5 and get Uber Cab to run me home in a town car. Let's get another round!

THE END

[torts]

Narberth Guy: Honey, last train leaves soon. I wish we could hang out until 2 a.m. and get wasted with our friends.

Girlfriend: I know, sweety. It never gets old. But the babysitter leaves at 12.

Narberth Guy: Damn. I'd love to keep drinking.

[overheard from inside Monk's]

24th and South Guy: bartender, can i get another one!?

Narberth guy: aw shucks, honey. let's go. i have to work tomorrow morning, and junior is going to get up soon.

THE END

[the mule]

Actual event would be.


Scene: Monk's, 16th and Spruce. A blustery Saturday night in November, about 11:45.]

Narberth Guy: Honey, last train leaves soon. Should we run to catch it, or do you think we can afford $15 for a cab home?

24th and South Guy: Let's order some more $15 beers first.

Narberth guy: Ok. Heck, maybe I'll spend an extra $5 and get Uber Cab to run me home in a town car. Let's get another round!

THE END

Cab fare to Narberth is more like $30.

[thoth]

On that note, what happened to loveisnoise?

I heard he and randomuser posted nudie pics of Malloy in a tryst with Chris Christie

[thoth]

Narberth Guy: Honey, last train leaves soon. I wish we could hang out until 2 a.m. and get wasted with our friends.

Girlfriend: I know, sweety. It never gets old. But the babysitter leaves at 12.

Narberth Guy: Damn. I'd love to keep drinking.

[overheard from inside Monk's]

24th and South Guy: bartender, can i get another one!?

Narberth guy: aw shucks, honey. let's go. i have to work tomorrow morning, and junior is going to get up soon.

THE END

Even as a playwright, your impenetrable sarcasm(?) never fails to be, er, impenetrable.

[seand]

I heard he and randomuser posted nudie pics of Malloy in a tryst with Chris Christie

Come out my way and say that to me in person, punk. Chris Christie only has trysts with real working class guys from DelCo, like randomuser, suburban punk.

[LUCas]

Cab fare to Narberth is more like $30.

Ok, two beers at Monks.

Let's see, $150,000 premium to live in the city, divided by $30/cab ride. That's 5,000 cab rides to make up the difference.

One thing I find strange in these discussions is that the animosity frequently displayed toward the suburbs related to them being "isolated" isn't directed toward those who live in East Falls or Manayunk, which, essentially, are just about as far away as Narberth or Merion.

[thoth]

Well, both are less isolated than Narberth.
Narberth is a town in the suburbs, Both EF and Manayunk more or less flow directly into the rest of the city and surrounding neighborhoods, even if there are "breaks" like a highway overpass. Narberth is buffered from the city by suburban areas and then relatively suburban city neighborhoods.

Manayunk and EF are serviced by (relatively) frequent bus lines in addition to trains and a bike/ped path that goes straight to CC.

Both are mostly comprised of rowhomes and more urban in character than Narberth as a whole. Manayunk is almost all rowhomes, as is the majority (at least in population, if not land area) of EF. I don't seem much attached housing in Narberth.

I'm not knocking the place, I like Narberth and you're point is not totally invalid. I probably would have compared to Fox Chase though.

I think the 150k premium is also selective, but I'll have to look at more recent property trends before commenting.

Ok, two beers at Monks.

Let's see, $150,000 premium to live in the city, divided by $30/cab ride. That's 5,000 cab rides to make up the difference.

One thing I find strange in these discussions is that the animosity frequently displayed toward the suburbs related to them being "isolated" isn't directed toward those who live in East Falls or Manayunk, which, essentially, are just about as far away as Narberth or Merion.

[OffenseTaken]

Ok, two beers at Monks.

Let's see, $150,000 premium to live in the city, divided by $30/cab ride. That's 5,000 cab rides to make up the difference.

One thing I find strange in these discussions is that the animosity frequently displayed toward the suburbs related to them being "isolated" isn't directed toward those who live in East Falls or Manayunk, which, essentially, are just about as far away as Narberth or Merion.

There's no animosity; I don't see why you're getting so defensive. You had argued that your access to the city would be almost as good in some suburbs as it is in the city itself, and a few people in this discussion just pointed out that that isn't true. You've also moved the goal posts a bit in the suburbs' favor: at first, it was regional rail that was going to bring all this easy access, and now we're talking about $15, then $30 cab rides.

Manayunk and EF are better if you want a happy medium between urban (rowhomes, street life) and suburban (safety, more square footage for your $$$) living, but I'm sure you know that already. And if you're worried about schools, Dobson and Cook–Wiss are wonderful but nothing beats the LMSD. Again, pretty common knowledge. I don't think any of these communities warrant animosity; I just think the Main Line is not without its own disadvantages, and you shouldn't neglect them.

[LUCas]

Well, both are less isolated than Narberth.
Narberth is a town in the suburbs, Both EF and Manayunk more or less flow directly into the rest of the city and surrounding neighborhoods, even if there are "breaks" like a highway overpass. Narberth is buffered from the city by suburban areas and then relatively suburban city neighborhoods.

Manayunk and EF are serviced by (relatively) frequent bus lines in addition to trains and a bike/ped path that goes straight to CC.

Both are mostly comprised of rowhomes and more urban in character than Narberth as a whole. Manayunk is almost all rowhomes, as is the majority (at least in population, if not land area) of EF. I don't seem much attached housing in Narberth.

All good points.

I'm not knocking the place, I like Narberth and you're point is not totally invalid. I probably would have compared to Fox Chase though.

Great, now I need to add Fox Chase as another option besides the city and main line....thanks. :P

I think the 150k premium is also selective, but I'll have to look at more recent property trends before commenting.

$700k row home on South previously discussed
2326 South Street #A, Philadelphia PA - Trulia
2300 sq. ft., 1 car garage, roof deck.

$535k stone tudor on .25 acre 1/3 mi. from train.
516 Latmer Rd, Merion Station, PA 19066 MLS# 6021226 - Zillow

or, for price parity:
117 Merion Rd, Merion Station, PA 19066 MLS# 6079679 - Zillow
$680k 5,500 sqft. contemporary on .6 acres 1/4 mi. from train.

[LUCas]

There's no animosity; I don't see why you're getting so defensive.

Not defensive at all. But you must admit, there's an anti-suburb slant to this site. (Something I've been guilty of myself)

You had argued that your access to the city would be almost as good in some suburbs as it is in the city itself, and a few people in this discussion just pointed out that that isn't true. You've also moved the goal posts a bit in the suburbs' favor: at first, it was regional rail that was going to bring all this easy access, and now we're talking about $15, then $30 cab rides.

Well, that was in response to the hypothetical late night at Monks. Something I really don't do that often these days as dramatized by Torts which was probably closer to my reality. And my arguments are halfway advocating for the devil. I'm going through a decision making process and countering what other people post because I'm trying to get more comments and info. I would say I'm pretty much torn 50-50 which way I want to go at this point.

I just think the Main Line is not without its own disadvantages, and you shouldn't neglect them.

I hope not to, so please keep them coming if any have not yet been mentioned.

Once again, thanks for the imput to all.

[Malloy]

I heard he and randomuser posted nudie pics of Malloy in a tryst with Chris Christie

Spot on. Bastards.

[Eastcoast]

All good points.



Great, now I need to add Fox Chase as another option besides the city and main line....thanks. :P



$700k row home on South previously discussed
2326 South Street #A, Philadelphia PA - Trulia
2300 sq. ft., 1 car garage, roof deck.

$535k stone tudor on .25 acre 1/3 mi. from train.
516 Latmer Rd, Merion Station, PA 19066 MLS# 6021226 - Zillow

or, for price parity:
117 Merion Rd, Merion Station, PA 19066 MLS# 6079679 - Zillow
$680k 5,500 sqft. contemporary on .6 acres 1/4 mi. from train.

Can I play?

$649,900 6 bedroom 2 bath Victorian that looks to be fairly close to PATCO.

118 Center Street, Haddonfield NJ - Trulia

[five apples]

Spot on. Bastards.

Was LIN banned or did he simply take one of his yearly quits? Dude doesn't post in a few days and people lose it.

[Malloy]

$12k taxes that will prob be $20k in 10 years. Youch!

Can I play?

$649,900 6 bedroom 2 bath Victorian that looks to be fairly close to PATCO.

118 Center Street, Haddonfield NJ - Trulia

[Jelly Roll]

$12k taxes that will prob be $20k in 10 years. Youch!

Definitely possible and sadly it depends more on Camden then anything happening in Haddonfield. The politicians are pushing for county wide services in order to pay for Camden...but then again Haddonfield has the most expensive housing prices in all of Camden County.

[Eastcoast]

$12k taxes that will prob be $20k in 10 years. Youch!

Heynow the properties that Lucas posted are already at 10,683k and 13k in taxes.

[annie]

Was LIN banned or did he simply take one of his yearly quits? Dude doesn't post in a few days and people lose it.

Damn it. We have summoned him.

[the mule]

Ok, two beers at Monks.

Let's see, $150,000 premium to live in the city, divided by $30/cab ride. That's 5,000 cab rides to make up the difference.

One thing I find strange in these discussions is that the animosity frequently displayed toward the suburbs related to them being "isolated" isn't directed toward those who live in East Falls or Manayunk, which, essentially, are just about as far away as Narberth or Merion.

Really? Maybe not on here so much, but Roxborough/Manayunk/EF are often treated with disdain and seen as separate from the city from those in closer proximity to Center City.

Me, I'd rather have those two beers at Monks than the cab ride.