Major trash problem at Tasker and 13th

[Giavella Water]

Wow.

Don't take any of your household trash to the corner. That's the rule. It applies to everyone equally, no exceptions. PARC put those wastebaskets out to keep the neighborhood clean. They did not put them there to collect your household trash. Commenters on this thread explained how they deal with their household waste in a way that doesn't blatantly violate the don't-put-your-household-trash-in-the-public-waste-basket rule. You should take a look at those suggestions.

If everyone adopted your approach, you'd sort of have the corner dumpster that you proposed. The difference would be that, instead of a corner dumpster, you'd have a wastebasket overflowing with household trash on the corner.

Yor right, it's only common sense that refuse baskets are only for pedestrians who need to throw out a tissue, coffee cup, wrapper etc. But the attitude with some folks is they wanna do what they want and damn common sense or your life
quality.

[suky tawdry]

PARC - May i respectfully ask why the boundary is the West side of 9th Street? Why not cover both sides of the street? The east side of 9th below Morris is usually a mess. Anyway, thanks for all that you do in the neighborhood.

[PGH Lessons]

I love this thread. 100 supervisors and folks with opinions and no one doing anything about it/actually putting in the work. Everyone has an opinion on what PARC should do. Perhaps you should ask yourself, what are you doing about it?

PARC is right - You have to change the culture. It's your neighborhood. Take it back.

[concourse]

I love this thread. 100 supervisors and folks with opinions and no one doing anything about it/actually putting in the work. Everyone has an opinion on what PARC should do. Perhaps you should ask yourself, what are you doing about it?

PARC is right - You have to change the culture. It's your neighborhood. Take it back.

Just because you complain online does not mean you don't help solve problems in your neighborhood.

[five apples]

Does PSCA still do their cleaning too? I have to say, though our hood is dirty, it is cleaner than it used to be and I think it is largely due to the efforts of PARC and the PSCA cleaning program.

As to trash dumping in public cans, you shouldn't do it, it is that simple.

[PARC]

Just so all of you know, PARC will continue to do the best we can to keep the neighborhood clean and tidy. But when we devote resources to ideas like trash cans, one would think that it would be something good. The problem is that many people have such a deeply ingrained sense of entitlement that they will never get behind a common cause that improves the mieghborhood for everyone. They thrive on manufactured drama and selfishness. PARC will always commit to moving forward and do what is right. We love this neighborhood and respect the hard work all of you do to move forward.

[JJS]

The can at 13th & Tasker was removed.

You can't give people nice things in this City.

[Ho Chi Minh]

Just so all of you know, PARC will continue to do the best we can to keep the neighborhood clean and tidy. But when we devote resources to ideas like trash cans, one would think that it would be something good. The problem is that many people have such a deeply ingrained sense of entitlement that they will never get behind a common cause that improves the mieghborhood for everyone. They thrive on manufactured drama and selfishness. PARC will always commit to moving forward and do what is right. We love this neighborhood and respect the hard work all of you do to move forward.

I for one think you do a great job! Thank you!

[PARC]

I for one think you do a great job! Thank you!

Thanks for the kind words.

[luchobucho]

I think the reality is that us neighbors that want to see a cleaner neighborhood new to be hyper vigilant regarding litter. We need to better support PARC and other organizations by getting after our filthy neighbors. PARC isn't around all the time but we are. Clean up your blocks and let all your neighbors know. Make it obvious how much effort goes into cleaning up and how it could be avoided by not letting their trash blow around, etc.

I dunno. I'm getting pretty fed up with it all, but I'm
Also not willing to give up on we're I live.

I just don't get it. Where I come from there just isn't trash. Wtf?

[nfs]

I agree that when we "see something, say something." Perhaps easier said than done....but I will make a concerted/brave effort to speak up when I see someone tossing garbage on the ground, not picking up after their dogs or leaving household trash in public cans.

And I think PARC is doing an excellent job. I think, as a whole, the neighborhood is lovely thanks to much of their work. I do not blame them for those select and selfish few.

[palvar]

Thanks for the kind words.

It really has been an enormous difference since you've started up again. Thanks.

[TonyDanza]

I agree that when we "see something, say something." Perhaps easier said than done....but I will make a concerted/brave effort to speak up when I see someone tossing garbage on the ground, not picking up after their dogs or leaving household trash in public cans.

And I think PARC is doing an excellent job. I think, as a whole, the neighborhood is lovely thanks to much of their work. I do not blame them for those select and selfish few.

Speaking from experience, I nicely tried to tell an older woman on my block that sweeping the garbage from the street in the sewer grate on the corner wasn't helping things - she told me to 'f#ck off and mind my own business'. I can't imagine what they would say if I told them to stop putting their trash in the corner public cans.

So yeah.

[ndebergerac]

I dunno, new garbage cans with openings only big enough for, say, a 20oz soda bottle? If people had to stand putting in 1 piece of trash at a time, it might do enough to discourage them.

[palvar]

I dunno, new garbage cans with openings only big enough for, say, a 20oz soda bottle? If people had to stand putting in 1 piece of trash at a time, it might do enough to discourage them.

I've seen kiddie pools sitting on top of solar trash cans - people will find a way.

[ndebergerac]

I've seen kiddie pools sitting on top of solar trash cans - people will find a way.

Yeah, you're right, if it don't fit, they'll just dump it. Stupid me

[luchobucho]

So the question is, how do you change an entire culture?

Is it even possible?

[luchobucho]

Speaking from experience, I nicely tried to tell an older woman on my block that sweeping the garbage from the street in the sewer grate on the corner wasn't helping things - she told me to 'f#ck off and mind my own business'. I can't imagine what they would say if I told them to stop putting their trash in the corner public cans.

So yeah.

That prolly would have set me off, and would have called her a filthy nasty bitch whore with no manners. I would have cursed her parents for being filthy pigs too and for not raising her right.

[phillydave]

Yeah....it's sad and depressing and maddening all at the same time. We love our neighborhood. We want to improve it so that we can enjoy it and so that our neighbors and visitors can enjoy it too. That is obvious from the posts that frequent this forum. We all contribute in different ways. I have yet to contribute much more than keeping my house in shape, planting some flowers and shrubs to soften the concrete landscape and picking up trash around my house.

I am thankful and very appreciative of those who have contributed much more like my neighbor who has planted a virtual botanical garden in sections of Columbus Park or the fine folks who volunteer their time on the neighborhood civic groups. Unfortunately, we have yet to completely change the old prevailing white trash culture found in our neighborhood. The one where no one takes pride in their living environment and their house and their neighborhood is seen as one big trash can. Trash feels at home living in its own filth. These are the same folks who want the flowers ripped up around the park, the trees cut down because leaves are trash and who toss their own trash in the streets while their houses are falling down around them. They have no pride in themselves and no pride in where they live.

Thanks to all of you for caring and having pride and for EPX and PSCA and the fine folks at PARC. One day we will hopefully out number those who do not.

[nfs]

PARC sent this email to Panet Aid

. . . Maybe they will listen.

Indeed, I think they did. I was in the area today and there was a man with a large Penske truck taking all the trash and donations away.

Thanks PARC.