ATV & Dirt bike solutions

**DaTruf** · 04-16-2012, 01:34 PM

ATV's and Dirt bikes are bad for South Philly with narrow roads and a high polutation.

I wanted to come up with some solutions to help curb this problem since cops have the no chase policy.

1: PPA should take them if they see them parked anywhere.
2: Gas stations should not be allowed to sell gas to them, if they do they will be fined and shutdown.
3: Reporting who on the block owns one online to call them out and stop them.
4: BAN the sale of ATV's and Dirt bikes in city limits
5: $50 reward for information every dirt bike or ATV we take off the streets, the money will come from the scrap metal yard who would gladly crush it.
6: PHA Police should evict the family who has one.
7: Welfare should stop funds to those who own one, if they can afford a dirt bike for fun, they should have fun paying for their own bacon.
8: A long rope.
9: Kids know who has a dirt bike since only the "cool kids" have one... Kids are cheap informants. Philadelphia School district should have a reporting system and teach the dangers of riding.

Dirt bikes are often used to transport drugs in the city.

Dirt-bike tragedy an example of bigger problem - Philly.com

The mother is actually suing the city for killing her "good boy"

**CHIOSSO** · 04-16-2012, 01:43 PM

**DaTruf** · 04-16-2012, 02:11 PM

This would be illegal to do. But this is where they ride. Looks so FUN, but too bad they ride in the streets. Philadelphia should open this up and CASH in on this, they should also open up a Drag track right on the airport runway on the weekends.

Home Land and FAA should protect the airports borders better too!

**O.H. Lee** · 04-17-2012, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by DaTruf

....Philadelphia should open this up and CASH in on this, they should also open up a Drag track right on the airport runway on the weekends.

.....!

Don't drunken suburbanites already drive on the runways?

**phillylawyer** · 04-17-2012, 01:08 PM

Jermaine's mother endangered her son's welfare and the welfare of that kid that was on the bike with Jermaine before the accident. Put her on trial and let her explain why she encouraged her son to engage in a highly dangerous and illegal activity. Ask her whether she believed cops would chase her son and try to "bump" him off his motorcycle, and if so, ask her why she accepted the risk of serious injury by permitting him to continue riding, illegally, on public roads while police were attempting to force him into an accident.

**DaTruf** · 04-18-2012, 09:18 AM

Beach St is another location in the city where Pennsylvania State Police should enforce and take over like the expressways.

Look that the amount of tires short dumped right next to the "ATV drag & off-road track" and river.

**BarryG** · 05-22-2012, 07:55 AM

Looks like PPD is making an effort to do something about ATVs and dirt bikes:

Originally Posted by Philadelphia Police Department

If you see a dirt bike or ATV on the street please call 911. Be prepared to provide a description of the vehicle and its operator... Another way to help is by letting us know who has these vehicles and where they are being stored...

Link: Call to Action: Help Us Get Illegal ATVs and DIrt Bikes Off the Streets | PhillyPolice Blog

**19147** · 05-22-2012, 08:16 AM

BS. I call on a daily basis. One of my neighbors has one and there are often four that race to and from his house every 10 minutes. Up and down the sidewalks doing wheelies. Almost hit an elderly neighbor and a woman who had to jump up on the step to avoid being hit. I call every time they pass my house and give the address where they will return every couple of minutes and be stored. Sometimes 15-20 calls per day from me alone. We don't even see a police car drive by. I called the precinct and was hung up on.

There was an arrest last weekend for a car break in. A cop was parked in the street writing it up. The kid revved his bike on the sidewalk for a minute or so, then rode past the cop, taunting him. They know they can't be chased and the cop wasn't interested in getting him while he was warming it up.

**BarryG** · 05-22-2012, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by 19147

BS. I call on a daily basis. One of my neighbors has one and there are often four that race to and from his house every 10 minutes. Up and down the sidewalks doing wheelies. Almost hit an elderly neighbor and a woman who had to jump up on the step to avoid being hit. I call every time they pass my house and give the address where they will return every couple of minutes and be stored. Sometimes 15-20 calls per day from me alone. We don't even see a police car drive by. I called the precinct and was hung up on.

There was an arrest last weekend for a car break in. A cop was parked in the street writing it up. The kid revved his bike on the sidewalk for a minute or so, then rode past the cop, taunting him. They know they can't be chased and the cop wasn't interested in getting him while he was warming it up.

Is it possible there was a change in policy?

**19147** · 05-22-2012, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by BarryG

Is it possible there was a change in policy?

Yep.

But, I don't think it was ever against policy for them to confiscate these bikes once they ride into this back yard that has only one way out. If they spent 30 minutes on Saturday, they could have had 4 of them, two bikes and two quads. And these are from know drug dealers. The officer was very aware of who they are.

**theREALalesis** · 05-22-2012, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by 19147

BS. I call on a daily basis. One of my neighbors has one and there are often four that race to and from his house every 10 minutes. Up and down the sidewalks doing wheelies. Almost hit an elderly neighbor and a woman who had to jump up on the step to avoid being hit. I call every time they pass my house and give the address where they will return every couple of minutes and be stored. Sometimes 15-20 calls per day from me alone. We don't even see a police car drive by. I called the precinct and was hung up on.

There was an arrest last weekend for a car break in. A cop was parked in the street writing it up. The kid revved his bike on the sidewalk for a minute or so, then rode past the cop, taunting him. They know they can't be chased and the cop wasn't interested in getting him while he was warming it up.

Wasn't there a big crack down on Pep Boys and other merchants in the city who sold these things a few years back?

**Gladys** · 05-22-2012, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by 19147

BS. I call on a daily basis. One of my neighbors has one and there are often four that race to and from his house every 10 minutes. Up and down the sidewalks doing wheelies. Almost hit an elderly neighbor and a woman who had to jump up on the step to avoid being hit. I call every time they pass my house and give the address where they will return every couple of minutes and be stored. Sometimes 15-20 calls per day from me alone. We don't even see a police car drive by. I called the precinct and was hung up on.

There was an arrest last weekend for a car break in. A cop was parked in the street writing it up. The kid revved his bike on the sidewalk for a minute or so, then rode past the cop, taunting him. They know they can't be chased and the cop wasn't interested in getting him while he was warming it up.

this story is news worthy and a hot topic... again i say call 6abc

**19147** · 05-22-2012, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Gladys

this story is news worthy and a hot topic... again i say call 6abc

I'm prepared to get video next time. You can't imagine how frustrating it is. I've recently heard that one of the bikes damaged another neighbor's car later in the day on Saturday. I'm guessing the a-hole doesn't have insurance and/or money to fix it. I'm considering a 2x4 to the head next time it rides by or some fishing line tied across the sidewalk.

**DaTruf** · 05-22-2012, 10:53 AM

This happened this week in PB:

Phila. Police officer injured chasing suspect | 6abc.com

Just this weekend during the Wheat beerfest an ATV and Dirtbike hopped the sidewalk and almost killed a bunch of drunks. Everyone had to get out of the way and hide their purses.

**Gladys** · 05-22-2012, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by 19147

I'm prepared to get video next time. You can't imagine how frustrating it is. I've recently heard that one of the bikes damaged another neighbor's car later in the day on Saturday. I'm guessing the a-hole doesn't have insurance and/or money to fix it. I'm considering a 2x4 to the head next time it rides by or some fishing line tied across the sidewalk.

that's worth the price of a camera, just be safe and don't let them see you do it.

i hear them on the street behind me often, and have actually seen one with an adult riding the wrong side on christian turning onto the wrong way on 22nd.

**theREALalesis** · 05-22-2012, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Gladys

this story is news worthy and a hot topic... again i say call 6abc

or Fox-29 or NBC10 Investigators for that matter.

**theREALalesis** · 05-22-2012, 11:16 AM

Are the "them" you refer to black individuals?

**PortPennFerry** · 05-22-2012, 11:36 AM

If the majority of ATVs are stolen, have the cops ever tried setting up 'bait ATV?' Leave an ATV out unattended that has been modified to go no more than 30 mph... something the rider would not know till he is a few blocks out.

Call me a horrible person, but I got the idea from the incident with the two teens in Logan baited by ATVs and then shot dead. What if instead of being shot dead, they got community service from the state and became valuable contributors to society?

**PBSusan** · 05-22-2012, 12:53 PM

These things go up and down Federal Street, within feet of the 17th. I'm not talking one drive by, I'm talking up and down, loud as h*ll, doing wheelies, driving on the street and the sidewalk. They are also predictably on Washington Ave and 19th Street regularly, completely disregarding people and traffic signals. I don't wander around the 'hood for fun much, just walking to and from work, and I see them regularly. I've never seen the police so much as blink. I've called 911. Historially, that's been a total waste of time. I HOPE they are going to do more, but every ounce of my being doubts it.

**annie** · 05-22-2012, 01:00 PM

Call to Action: Help Us Get Illegal ATVs and DIrt Bikes Off the Streets | PhillyPolice Blog

Another way to help is by letting us know who has these vehicles and where they are being stored. The Police Department provides several ways for citizens to submit tips. Tips can be sent via text message to short code PPDTIP, emailed to tips@PhillyPolice.com, or phoned in to 215-686-TIPS(8477). Please provide any information you have available such as the exact location where the vehicle is being stored, the owners of the vehicle, or if the vehicle is stolen.