I'll give him his chance.
My prediction is it just doesn't work.
Sweet hire, I'm jealous. Can't wait to see a nfl coach who isn't a complete vagina on 4th down.
I don't even know football that well and figured this would be the pick since it is Lurie's cheapest option.
My old boss is an Oregon native, Oregon alumnus, and Ducks fanatic. He's going into conniptions right now.
12 NFL Coaching Busts | 12 Successful College Coaches Who Were Busts in the NFL | Comcast.net
The last college-to-NFL coach to win a Super Bowl was Barry Switzer, and the last seven coaches who made the jump from college to the pros have combined to win exactly one playoff game (Pete Carroll's 7-9 Seahawks, who shouldn't have been allowed near the playoffs, pulled off a shocker against the Saints this past year). One.
Funny how that article links to a picture of one of the top two current best coaches in the league.
I really, really hope Kelly doesn't water down his offense at all. Yous guys should draft Geno Smith as QB and Denard Robinson as an RB and see what happens.
Not impressed with the hire, and not just because college coaches tend to do pretty poorly on the pro-level. It's because gimmicks don't work in the NFL, and coaches that succeed based on gimmicks (Steve Spurrier and his Fun 'N Gun offense comes to mind), can't usually adapt.
Kelly's blur offense is amazing at the college level, but let's be honest. A lot of his success is due to his teams being faster and more talented than the opposition, and a huge recruiting edge will do that to you. No such advantage exists in the NFL. Maybe a variation of his offense can work at the pro level, like what the Patriots are doing now. But the NFL is nothing if not an adaptable league, and gimmicks quickly lose their effectiveness. The ability to which he succeeds will depend on the degree to which he can base the offense in real, reliable tactics.
Also, the guy's already come off as a giant douche for pissing off the fanbases of both the team he's leaving and the team he's going to. Oregon, for jerking them around and going back on his word, and Philly, for already declining once, showing me that maybe his heart isn't really in this.
He's a smart guy and big on analytics so I think he'll be adaptable. The spread just happened to be the best way to attack college defenses.
Granted the Redskins were enormously successful with retreads & coordinators under Dan Snyder before&after Spurrier...oh wait no they sucked for 12+ years until they found a qb just like Bill Bellichick and pretty much every other nfl team not coached by Harbaugh.
Sure maybe he'll stop the spread offense, going for it on 4th down, and the 2 point conversion... but did he ever prove he can win doing that in the long run?! Just saying, maybe he'll work out, my guess is it doesn't. I'm willing to give him a chance, he deserves that much.
Going for it on 4th down and going for 2 are the correct actions to make in the modern NFL, where offenses have the edge. Other coaches are just stuck in 70s "field position" thinking. As I said in another thread, I'm not even an Eagles fan, I just live here, but I'm super pumped for next year.
Well the going for it on 4th down part & 2pt conversions part he shouldn't stop - most coaches are terrible at that & punt far too much than simple math says they should.
What are those "gimmicks" supposed to be examples of - teams that didn't win the Super Bowl? I can give you 5,000 examples of traditional offenses that didn't win Super Bowls. God Forbid the 2008 Dolphins lose a playoff game a year after going 1-15 though. I'm sure they would've had no problems steamrolling the competition on the way to a SB win with Chad Pennington taking 7 step drops and throwing darts.
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Mike Smith amazingly did his best to top that by kicking an XP up 26-7 after not one but two offsides penalties, potentially getting the ball at the half yard line, up 19 points. But ya know, you don't want to get beat by 2 TD's and 2 FG's when there's 15 minutes left, so you must kick. Why? Because that's what I've always done and I don't know what else to do and I don't really know how to think, that's why.
Because there is no justice they just barely missed out on losing by a point.
And obviously a missed FG and having to play legendarily good teams the following 3 years is proof it "didn't work".I was more referring to the Bills of the early 90s who for a few seasons ran no-huddle all game long
Did you know that the NFL salary floor is 90% of the salary cap? So it's really almost impossible for an NFL owner to be cheap. Saying Jeff Lurie is cheap is one of the most ridiculous narratives invented by Philadelphia sports fans.
And who says that Chip Kelly is going to be cheap? First of all, he probably is the most sought after coach. Also, universities can't pay their players, so the only way they can typically make teams better is through paying coaching and improving their facilities. Have you ever seen how much college coaches make? It's not insignificant.
FWIW, Norv Turner is a great offensive coordinator. Lousy head coach, but when his focus is on the offense--and strictly on the offense--he's one of the best in the game. He won two rings doing it with the Cowboys, and made dramatic improvements doing it at his other stops since. His only problem is that he keeps having delusions of head coach grandeur, and hasn't stayed as OC long enough in any one place.