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    Why?

    I like parks and small effective projects like this.

    I've never been "anti-park" i'm just "fix the existing parks before building new ones for new residents"


    This park is nice, location exceptional, site was unused.


    It's the connector that I have issues with. They have visions of grandeur of removing the highway ramps. The only ones for Old City to go north.


    Sadly, they are wasting money on those trees.

    They never bothered to ask why the baseball field has to replace it's grass.

    Hint... salt+bridge+wind = carthage
    I'm not seeing all these supposed bikes in all these million dollar bike lanes.

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    Whatever people.

    Come out to Race Street Cafe for some drinks and food, meet the owner Neil and bartenders Michael and Andy. They've upgraded their menu recently too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desolate View Post
    Why?

    I like parks and small effective projects like this.

    I've never been "anti-park" i'm just "fix the existing parks before building new ones for new residents"


    This park is nice, location exceptional, site was unused.


    It's the connector that I have issues with. They have visions of grandeur of removing the highway ramps. The only ones for Old City to go north.


    Sadly, they are wasting money on those trees.

    They never bothered to ask why the baseball field has to replace it's grass.

    Hint... salt+bridge+wind = carthage
    And the fact that it's being spearheaded by PennPraxis and the DRWC and costs way more than the dinky little Pier Whatever-It-Is Park by the Coast Guard Station doesn't bother you one bit?

    And yeah, I agree with you, getting rid of those ramps is silly. The sidewalk's on the extreme south side of the spaghetti bowl anyway.

    Of course, they could use hardy trees used to salt + wind + bridge cliff conditions, too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTEMPLE View Post
    Whatever people.

    Come out to Race Street Cafe for some drinks and food, meet the owner Neil and bartenders Michael and Andy. They've upgraded their menu recently too.
    My husband and I plan to be there. Connector and Pier are going to be awesome when complete.

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    I love a good party

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammersklavier View Post
    And the fact that it's being spearheaded by PennPraxis and the DRWC and costs way more than the dinky little Pier Whatever-It-Is Park by the Coast Guard Station doesn't bother you one bit?

    And yeah, I agree with you, getting rid of those ramps is silly. The sidewalk's on the extreme south side of the spaghetti bowl anyway.

    Of course, they could use hardy trees used to salt + wind + bridge cliff conditions, too...

    It doesn't bother me because this is what they should be doing.

    Not stealing land from owners for setbacks. Ordering overlays with specific controls, usages, etc. Fighting to get rid of Ikea, HD, other tax generating structures.

    If they just did this type of stuff... parks...THEN fought to connect the parks, it would make a great deal more sense.


    It's a good location, I'm sure they will want to cripple the intersection so the one guy that may walk has that opportunity and the other 23 hours of the day everyone has to wait.
    I'm not seeing all these supposed bikes in all these million dollar bike lanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desolate View Post
    Why?

    I like parks and small effective projects like this.

    I've never been "anti-park" i'm just "fix the existing parks before building new ones for new residents"


    This park is nice, location exceptional, site was unused.


    It's the connector that I have issues with. They have visions of grandeur of removing the highway ramps. The only ones for Old City to go north.


    Sadly, they are wasting money on those trees.

    They never bothered to ask why the baseball field has to replace it's grass.

    Hint... salt+bridge+wind = carthage
    Are you sure ?

    http://www.philadelphiaspeaks.com/fo...html#post51952


    " I don't agree with paying for top notch architects for a park in a city that's absolutley broke as a ****ing joke.

    You want a park.


    Fix the acres of existing park first. Acres and acres of parks that...

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    PHILADELPHIA - July 30, 2009 (WPVI) -- Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter himself lead a protest of the Pennsylvania budget stalemate at City Hall on Thursday.

    From Mayor Michael Nutter's perspective, there's a doomsday clock ticking in Philadelphia's future, a clock that could have devastating effects without action from Harrisburg.

    "Time is of the essence because we may be forced to take a variety of actions that none of us want to take," Mayor Nutter said.

    With the clock ticking towards August 15, the date the city would have to cut $700-million from its 5 year budget plan, the mayor is asking legislators in Harrisburg to help, by approving a temporary 1% boost in the city's sales tax and making changes to the city's pension plan payment schedule.

    "We're not asking for a handout, we're asking for a hand from our fellow elected officials in Harrisburg, give us the tools to do what it is that we need to do," Mayor Nutter said.

    Here's just a glimpse of what the mayor says will happen if the budget isn't passed soon:

    -972 positions eliminated from the police force.

    -6 engine companies and 3 ladder companies in fire department deactivated.

    -2 city health centers closed, and operations ceased at all libraries and Fairmount Park.

    -Close to 3,000 city positions eliminated.

    "As much hope, as much faith as we have, we cannot run a government solely on hope, we need money," Nutter said.

    Among those packed in the City Hall courtyard for a rally protesting the state's budget stalemate, a number of nonprofits that say the cuts will devastate all who rely on their services.

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    A budget stalemate in Harrisburg, the city bleeding in the wake of one of the worse economic recessions in decades, has the makings of a perfect storm for disaster says one administration official. Indeed, Mayor Nutter himself is asking everyone in the city and the suburbs to urge their legislators to act.

    If the House and the Senate don't pass the legislation regarding the pension plans and sales tax by August 15, the city will be forced to redraft a new five year budget plan including the drastic cuts.

    To avoid massive reductions, the mayor says Harrisburg needs to approve a temporary 1% boost in local sales tax and changes to the city's pension payments.



    This city operates like my friend.


    Unemployed, broke.

    Just bought a TV from Best Buy on 3 years no interest.


    This park is like that. So is Dilworth's $40,000,000.00 rebirth.


    So designing a $1,000,000.00 park that you can't even afford to run.


    It's ****ing real real stupid.

    Real Stupid.



    An the people from the NE have at least three poorly maintained parks they can use on the waterfront.

    Linden
    Pennypack
    Penn Treaty

    Maybe all you hippies can take the bus "up" to them. The horror. Mixing with the unwashed masses of the NE.

    Somebody should tell CDAG it's job isn't to increase the value of thier own houses. "

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    I do like the idea of the park.


    I didn't like the idea of HIRING A FIRM FROM NYC FOR LOTS OF MONEY TO JUST LAY OUT SOME BENCHES.


    See how they can still be the same opinion.

    Park Good,

    Penn praxis Bad.

    Park Good

    Firm selection bad.
    I'm not seeing all these supposed bikes in all these million dollar bike lanes.

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    He's just upset that it wasn't designed by highway engineers.

    All kidding aside, I think we all agree that this is a cool project.

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    I just didn't see the need for a top flight architectual firm for a park with benches.

    They want to do everything at some kind of high value intentions when ANYTHING would be an improvement.

    Like little trees weren't enough so they went and got funding for bigger trees.

    Let's just try "a" park instead of blowing all the money on hiring top level architects.

    That's all.
    I'm not seeing all these supposed bikes in all these million dollar bike lanes.

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    I guess every site needs a wet blanket guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountFunkula View Post
    I guess every site needs a wet blanket guy.
    I like the park.

    Just don't see a need to bring in a very expensive NYC architecture firm to place some benches and trashcans.
    I'm not seeing all these supposed bikes in all these million dollar bike lanes.

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    Great project, great design, and a good step to (hopefully) igniting more development along the Delaware. Can't wait to see this thing in the Spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desolate View Post
    I like the park.

    Just don't see a need to bring in a very expensive NYC architecture firm to place some benches and trashcans.
    I know...we heard you the first time. It sounded even less smart the second time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desolate View Post
    I like the park.

    Just don't see a need to bring in a very expensive NYC architecture firm to place some benches and trashcans.
    Quote Originally Posted by CountFunkula View Post
    I know...we heard you the first time. It sounded even less smart the second time.
    What's worse James Corner is also chair of the Landscape Architecture department at UPenn, home of Penn Praxis. What's not for for Zursolate to hate?

    James Corner: Landscape Architecture Chair - Almanac, Vol. 47, No. 4, 9/19/2000
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountFunkula View Post
    I know...we heard you the first time. It sounded even less smart the second time.
    Well when the city doesn't have money for pools this summer...
    I'm not seeing all these supposed bikes in all these million dollar bike lanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayfar View Post
    What's worse James Corner is also chair of the Landscape Architecture department at UPenn, home of Penn Praxis. What's not for for Zursolate to hate?

    James Corner: Landscape Architecture Chair - Almanac, Vol. 47, No. 4, 9/19/2000

    So wait, Penn basically hires one of their own for tons of (your) cash and I'm the dick for raining on the parade.
    I'm not seeing all these supposed bikes in all these million dollar bike lanes.

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    Cheap young and ambitious with nothing to lose
    vs
    expensive established and ingrown with a reputation to maintain.


    If you understand anything about creativity you understand how both have risks and payoffs.

    The Race Street Pier offered the potential for real risk taking and innovation. I don't see that as having happened. Doesn't mean I'm not a fan.


    I just P R A Y T O G O D it doesn't become populated with ugly lovie-dovies the way Penn's Landing's water-front seating is.
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