o.k. or not o.k.?
o.k. or not o.k.?
I'm a biker and a runner, so I've been on both sides. If you're going to run in the bike paths, run against traffic and please hop up on the sidewalk as soon as you see a cyclist coming down. I don't mind joggers using the bike paths, I understand the sidewalks can be rough to run on, but first priority goes to cyclists.
Having just run a half marathon and putting in some decent mileage, I've found very little need to run in the bike lanes. Typically I'd run north-south routes, with Center City being the least fun place to run because of all the people. Once you get outside Center City, running in the bike lanes shouldn't be necessary.
Oh and welcome to Philadelphia Speaks, judging by your handle, are you in Brewerytown?
It's a dick move at rush hour. Otherwise, as long as they stay near the curb and I can overtake them without weaving into auto traffic, I don't really care.
Now you know how drivers feel when bikes ride in the middle of the street at 4 MPH. Yes A DICK move
If, as mentioned above, you run against the flow of traffic and move to the sidewalk whenever you see a bike, then I don't see the issue. Don't go running down a bike lane with headphones on though or going with the flow of traffic so that you can't see or hear if you're being overtaken by a bike.
To be honest, I'd rather they run with traffic. If I'm going 14 mph on my bike and a runner is going 7 in the same direction, I know well ahead of time what's happening, which—if it's during the 22 hours a day that the bike lanes are pretty much empty anyway—is not a big deal.
I don't mind runners in the bike lane. I'd prefer it if they ran against the flow of traffic, so we can see each other.
roads are for cars, not bikes, so unless it's got a bike lane stay off it
and there's no such thing as a jogger lane, so go find a park to run around in.
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As for the second statement...I don't even know how to respond to that.
I think jogging in the bike lane is fine so long as you're not getting in my way when I'm parking in the bike lane.
Man that would really cheese me off.
I have encountered this more than a few times, and have been wondering about this and watching tho comments roll in.
The only reason a jogger uses the bike lane rather than the sidewalk is for their own convenience.
Joggers seem to be making a grab for rights to use the lanes without any collaboration with the organizations that made the bike lanes possible via a general consensus. If joggers want to use the bike lanes, and local jogger organizations agree its a good thing, then they should get involved in planning and putting forth safety procedures on how to run in the bike lanes. There are, after all, rules that allow cars in bike lanes under certain conditions, but no rules regarding joggers.
Until a set of safety rules are agreed upon by all involved, "Bike Lanes" are for bikes only- not cars, scooters, pedestrians, skateboarders, or joggers.
If you jog in a bike lane you do so at your own risk, you are a safety hazard to everyone, and you put bikers who legally use the bike lanes at risk of serious injury to themselves.
Last edited by supersupper; 10-08-2012 at 05:40 PM.
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Jogging is more green than biking therefore I feel that they should have full and preferred usage of the bike lanes, especially those running with double jogging strollers. Three humans propelled at the environmental expense of one pair of sneakers trumps the wealthy fat cats sitting on their expensive bicycles IMO.