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    Interesting...people move for the schools and yet....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl View Post
    Interesting...people move for the schools and yet....
    And yet what?

    48 if the 50 schools listed here are in suburbs so looks like those people are making a logical decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Count View Post
    And yet what?

    48 if the 50 schools listed here are in suburbs so looks like those people are making a logical decision.
    47 of 50. Or maybe 46. Hard to know with DVHS on the list.

    Having #1 be in Philly ain't shabby.

    Interesting that no private schools were integrated into the list. Philly would do very well in that category. Also, Philly has been focusing on fixing grammar schools, with the logic that high schools will improve as better clay works it's way up. That's only happening now. Soon enough another Philly high school will be on the list. Then another. Then another. If you attract better students, you'll have better test scores. Philly did the opposite for decades. Now we've figured out a smarter way. Not surprisingly the quality of our students is improving with the new, quality-oriented approach. Only it's been focused on certain grammar schools (but an ever-expanding cohort of grammar schools). Until now.
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    No wonder everyone moves out of the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Count View Post
    And yet what?

    48 if the 50 schools listed here are in suburbs so looks like those people are making a logical decision.
    And, if people put a fraction of the effort into city schools that they do in the suburban schools, especially once they move there, city schools would be uniformly significantly better.
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    Studies have consistently correlated SAT scores with socio-economic status. I'd like to know how poorer kids (if they exist) do in the top suburban schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl View Post
    And, if people put a fraction of the effort into city schools that they do in the suburban schools, especially once they move there, city schools would be uniformly significantly better.
    Also note that Lower Merion spends $21,339/student while PSD spends $11,078. Imagine how much better PSD high schools would do if it had the kind of money that LMT does.

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    Masterman, Central, Mast are not a public schools. Only the best kids get to go there.. So that means NO Philly public schools made the list.. The burbs public schools ARE public schools and your kids get to go there whether they is over the top brilliant or not. *BIG* difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoshTrvls View Post
    Also note that Lower Merion spends $21,339/student while PSD spends $11,078. Imagine how much better PSD high schools would do if it had the kind of money that LMT does.
    Wrong.. Philly spends $14,300 per student on average and the Philly Charters spends $12,700 and they generally do way better .. Sp spending does not always matter. Oh and some Philly public's spend way more then $14,300 too
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    If kids took the SAT in 4th grade, the SDP wouldn't be nearly as underrepresented.

    Penn Alexander, Greenfield, and Dobson are officially feeder schools of WPHS, SPHS, and Roxborough, but practically not, since almost all of their eighth-graders go to other high schools. There are a number of scrappy city-dwelling families these days who have become active at their neighborhood primary schools, but they still avoid the neighborhood high schools like the plague.

    The brain drain from neighborhood high schools in Philadelphia is so thorough and devastating that the kids in a graduation class of 400 who are at grade level (or above) in mathematics can often fit into two classrooms. That's why this list should surprise positively no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJbound View Post
    Masterman, Central, Mast are not a public schools.
    Incorrect. They're public; they're just not neighborhood schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffenseTaken View Post
    Incorrect. They're public; they're just not neighborhood schools.
    Ya think?? Move near any of the three with an average intelligence child and apply.. You will find out they are not.. Here is Masterman's admissions page if you still don't believe me. Heres the best part. Even if your child DOES meet qualifications they still may not be admitted due to space limitations..

    http://webgui.phila.k12.pa.us/school...man/admissions

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJbound View Post
    Masterman, Central, Mast are not a public schools. Only the best kids get to go there.. So that means NO Philly public schools made the list.. The burbs public schools ARE public schools and your kids get to go there whether they is over the top brilliant or not. *BIG* difference
    You don't really live in the bubble that you appear to some days, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJbound View Post
    Ya think?? Move near any of the three with an average intelligence child and apply.. You will find out they are not.. Here is Masterman's admissions page if you still don't believe me.

    Admissions - The School District of Philadelphia

    And children of merely average intelligence are not those that drive up scores in the suburbs, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl View Post
    You don't really live in the bubble that you appear to some days, do you?
    What bubble is this.? I write facts..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl View Post
    And children of merely average intelligence are not those that drive up scores in the suburbs, either.
    Wrong again.. If you move into an area in the burbs you go to the public school no matter how smart your child is. He/she gets in no matter what. And these schools STILL excel.. Amazing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJbound View Post
    Wrong again.. If you move into an area in the burbs you go to the public school no matter how smart your child is. He/she gets in no matter what. And these schools STILL excel.. Amazing..
    Not wrong again. The average students might receive a decent education, but they aren't the ones that score those top SAT grades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl View Post
    Not wrong again. The average students might receive a decent education, but they aren't the ones that score those top SAT grades.
    Yep sure are wrong. The sat scores are AVERAGED from all the students..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJbound View Post
    Ya think?? Move near any of the three with an average intelligence child and apply.. You will find out they are not.. Here is Masterman's admissions page if you still don't believe me. Heres the best part. Even if your child DOES meet qualifications they still may not be admitted due to space limitations..

    Admissions - The School District of Philadelphia
    "Public school" does not mean "open enrollment." It means "public school."

 

 

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