If kids can't keep up can they be counselled out of a school? That happens at my kids' school all of the time. I'm going to guess that the answer is yes for a magnet school, and no for a neighborhood or a charter school. It seems to me that if kids are holding back the progress of a classroom, they should be with other kids who need extra support, where hopefully they can make progress rather than hold everyone else up while not getting the support that they really need anyway.
ETA: There are plenty of district schools whose results I am upset about and will go into when I have time.
Last edited by annie; 09-21-2012 at 03:11 PM.
Not defending Lab/Ad Prima/Abacus, nor testing as a condition of enrolling but not all predictative testing is all bad. I can see predictive testing at the beginning of the year and seeing "Wow we really need to work on these kind of word problems, spend more time on fractions". Some testing can be really useful for setting priorities on the areas a class needs the most work on. That isn't necessarily "reducing education to test prep" but using it to figure where students need the most work to actually master the skills they will need to go on to the next thing. Its a hard line to draw.
When I worked in public school, many of the lowest scoring students had IEPs. These kids might be, say, 5th graders reading on a 3rd grade level but they must take the 5th grade test. You cannot imagine how heartbreaking it is having to give a 5th grade reading test to a child who is slow. Those were some of the worst days of my teaching career.
So, if you manage to avoid having special ed students through whatever means you employ, you'll probably get fewer kids scoring below basic. Public schools cannot avoid special ed kids. BTW, even magnets are supposed to serve children with special needs. At Central and Masterman, these needs usually are a physical disability, a hearing loss, or a speech disability although I know that Masterman has served high-functioning autistic children as well. Saul High School takes a significant number of special needs kids, even though they do select their students as well. remember that if you judge Saul by their scores.
Philadelphia - The hard data: Scores down at every level | Philadelphia Public School Notebook
I made a Google spreadsheet of the Philadelphia scores.
Pa. test scores drop; state officials blame past cheating | Philadelphia Public School Notebook
Uhhhhhh...Investigations have been closed in six others, including Chester Community Charter School, but the department will “continue to monitor” the involved schools.
Chester Community’s proficiency rates plummeted about 30 points in both reading and math, and the declines were fairly uniform across all grade levels and demographic subgroups.
The school, with more than 2,500 students on two campuses, is the state’s largest brick-and-mortar charter and is operated for-profit by Gov. Corbett’s single largest campaign contributor, Vahan Gureghian. Its CEO sent a letter to parents blaming the sharp drops on severe state funding cutbacks that caused “sharp declines in services.”
Last edited by annie; 09-21-2012 at 07:02 PM.
Oh hell.Originally Posted by Philly Parent and Teacher
CAO Penny Nixon to take yearlong leave Nov. 1 | Philadelphia Public School Notebook
Chief Academic Officer Penny Nixon will be taking a one-year sabbatical from the School District starting Nov. 1. Nixon had been the second-ranking District official and top instructional leader until the recent appointment of Paul Kihn as deputy superintendent.
Nixon, a product of the school system who rose through the ranks, had played a pivotal role in the District restructuring that got underway after the departure of former Superintendent Arlene Ackerman a year ago. But Nixon's name had also been tied to the District's ongoing cheating scandal. Wagner Middle School, where she was principal in 2009, was flagged for irregular test results for 7th and 8th graders that year in a forensic analysis by the state.
Sabbaticals usually begin on September 1 or February 1 except for restoration of health sabbaticals which can begin at any time. Of course, Penny Nixon is not working in a school. Perhaps she agreed to this later starting date so that she was available during the opening month of school, given that the CEO is new. Just a thought.
How are you suppose to delete a post? The Edit Post button says "Edit/Delete", but there is no Delete button when you hit it.
Corbett's education chief changes PSSA testing rules for charter schools without federal approval - mcall.com
I'm glad there's some investigation into this because it's honestly really confusing (and so on purpose, I think). Basically a K-12 district school had to improve its PSSAs to the progress threshold at grades 3-8 and 11 in order to make AYP. A K-12 charter school only needed to meet the progress threshold in a single grade span (3-5, 6-8 or 11) in order to make AYP.Gov. Tom Corbett's education chief changed the PSSA testing rules in a way that makes it easier for charter schools to meet federal benchmarks than traditional public schools.
Education Secretary Ron Tomalis' change, made without federal approval, might have skewed the results of the 2011-12 PSSA scores to make it appear charter schools were outperforming traditional public schools, according to a Morning Call review of publicly available test score data.
The U.S. Department of Education has final authority over any changes in how states grade public schools, school districts and any other "local education agency" under the No Child Left Behind Act.
Last edited by annie; 10-06-2012 at 10:24 AM.
U.S. says Pa. was not authorized to change charter progress rules
Under the new rules, charters did about as well statewide this year as public schools, and much better than regular schools in several urban districts.
About 49 percent of charters statewide made Adequate Yearly Progress in 2012, compared with 51 percent of all Pennsylvania schools.
In Philadelphia, about 54 percent of charters made the grade, compared with only 13 percent of public schools.
The school boards association said that if the old rules had been used, dozens fewer charter schools would have made AYP and charters would have performed much worse on average statewide than regular public schools.
Under the old rules, the association estimated, statewide, only 33 of 156 charters with PSSA scores - 21 percent - would have gotten the "Made AYP" designation, instead of 49 percent. In Philadelphia, association figures showed, 20 percent of charters would have made AYP, instead of 54 percent.
I'm missing what the outrage is over. As explained in the article, it seems to make sense.Instead of averaging the scores of all tested students to make AYP, under the new rules charters could average the test scores of only a few grades to meet state benchmarks, the way it is done for entire school districts.
Publics have to make AYP guidelines in each of their testing ages. Charters only have to make them in one testing range. Probably to make it easier for those "charter by decree" schools to make AYP, not so much those no-good cherry-picking "charters-by-choice".
If the cyber schools require a different measuring stick because of their unique structure it makes no sense to not measure a brick and mortar k-8 by the same criteria as another brick and mortar K-8.