Starbuck's homeless neighbors

**yassie** · 05-26-2012, 06:07 PM

There's a homeless couple that live on the steps almost next to Starbucks-Anyone know anything about them?
I guess if you're homeless, it's a good place to be.

**Alley** · 05-29-2012, 03:00 PM

I walk by there all the time early morning and have not noticed them which is odd. After reading your post I even made an effort to look and have not seen them. Are they on the Arch or 3rd Street side of Starbucks? Yes, if you are homeless that is a great location to beg from the tourists. If every tourist who gave money took a homeless person home instead those of us who live here would be much better off.

**yassie** · 05-30-2012, 07:55 AM

The Starbucks on Walnut and 8th st

**Alley** · 05-30-2012, 10:03 AM

Post in Old City / Society Hill I assumed the Starbucks on 3rd/Arch. Starbucks at 8th/Walnut hmm is that Washington Square or considered Society Hill? Regardless, I walk by there I'll be on the look out for them. They would do much better begging at the 3rd/Arch Starbucks!

**shakerlady** · 05-30-2012, 10:03 AM

I don't know anything about them, but I've seen them as I wait for the bus. If they stay much longer, they could qualify as squatters, right? Kind of like the gardeners in QV?

**yassie** · 09-09-2012, 10:05 AM

Now there's 3 of them sleeping and shooting up on the steps near the Starbucks on 8th and Walnut. They use star buck's bathrooms when they can and have left their needles in there! why won't the police do something about them????

**snick33** · 09-09-2012, 12:38 PM

Is this the white male and female in their late 20's. I saw them the other night in Yogorino eating ice cream and exchanging their $1 bills for $20s. And they had another giant stack of cash of higher bills.

**bluecuracao** · 09-09-2012, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by yassie

Now there's 3 of them sleeping and shooting up on the steps near the Starbucks on 8th and Walnut. They use star buck's bathrooms when they can and have left their needles in there! why won't the police do something about them????

Could it be that no one has reported them to the police?

**Hospitalitygirl** · 09-09-2012, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Could it be that no one has reported them to the police?

It's also likely that the police can't really do much about them just being homeless.

I know both Lbomb369 and O.H.Lee have both mentioned in the past, that the city has a hands off policy, generally, with regard to homeless.

**FKD19124** · 09-09-2012, 02:07 PM

Why does Startbucks let them in to use the bathrooms? I seriously doubt they are buying coffee considering how expensive it can be.

Originally Posted by yassie

Now there's 3 of them sleeping and shooting up on the steps near the Starbucks on 8th and Walnut. They use star buck's bathrooms when they can and have left their needles in there! why won't the police do something about them????

**yassie** · 09-16-2012, 10:10 AM

I saw the guy use the bathroom at Le pain Quotidien -hope he didn't drop any needles

**MarketStEl** · 09-16-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Alley

Post in Old City / Society Hill I assumed the Starbucks on 3rd/Arch. Starbucks at 8th/Walnut hmm is that Washington Square or considered Society Hill? Regardless, I walk by there I'll be on the look out for them. They would do much better begging at the 3rd/Arch Starbucks!

8th and Walnut, southeast corner, is technically Society Hill. Wash West technically begins across 8th Street.

**goobee2** · 09-17-2012, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by shakerlady

I don't know anything about them, but I've seen them as I wait for the bus. If they stay much longer, they could qualify as squatters, right? Kind of like the gardeners in QV?

Who are the gardeners in QV?

**cjwill27** · 10-05-2012, 08:16 AM

I live directly across the street from them. The couple has lived there for about a year, picking up the third guy about a month ago (last night four people were sleeping there). They often have "house parties" at night, inviting 4-5 junkies to their stoop to hang out..

I've contacted Chops (the restaurant's steps they sleep on) via facebook to see if there is anything they can do and the operator of the page (manager I assume) said he has tried bribing them to leave with little luck and his only course of action is to leave the lights on (which doesn't work, as another junkie couple has taken over their front steps as well). I routinely see one of them cover themselves in a blanket (to shoot up I assume) while the other plays lookout. The other morning they were in a loud argument where the man was trying to convince his two companions to get up and out of bed because "you have a fu*%ng bag of heroin on you, do you want the cops to come?!". I called the cops once on them when they were shooting up in plain sight with no response and even tried the homeless outreach number when one of them was clearly tweaking out of their minds and was having trouble sitting upright. Of course, the only thing they did was bring them a warm meal which I'm sure was like Christmas morning for them, what a treat....

They need to go but it seems like neither the cops of Chops have the balls to stand up and do something about an obvious public nuisance that are a danger to themselves and potentially the neighborhood (last thing I want is some innocent passer-by to get caught up in a deal gone bad). Here is to hoping for a brutal winter...

**bluecuracao** · 10-06-2012, 04:31 PM

cjwill27, I suggest you keep calling 911 until you get a response. I know people are hesitant to 'bother' the police, but this is definitely something they should address.

**Giavella Water** · 10-06-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by cjwill27

I live directly across the street from them. The couple has lived there for about a year, picking up the third guy about a month ago (last night four people were sleeping there). They often have "house parties" at night, inviting 4-5 junkies to their stoop to hang out..

I've contacted Chops (the restaurant's steps they sleep on) via facebook to see if there is anything they can do and the operator of the page (manager I assume) said he has tried bribing them to leave with little luck and his only course of action is to leave the lights on (which doesn't work, as another junkie couple has taken over their front steps as well). I routinely see one of them cover themselves in a blanket (to shoot up I assume) while the other plays lookout. The other morning they were in a loud argument where the man was trying to convince his two companions to get up and out of bed because "you have a fu*%ng bag of heroin on you, do you want the cops to come?!". I called the cops once on them when they were shooting up in plain sight with no response and even tried the homeless outreach number when one of them was clearly tweaking out of their minds and was having trouble sitting upright. Of course, the only thing they did was bring them a warm meal which I'm sure was like Christmas morning for them, what a treat....

They need to go but it seems like neither the cops of Chops have the balls to stand up and do something about an obvious public nuisance that are a danger to themselves and potentially the neighborhood (last thing I want is some innocent passer-by to get caught up in a deal gone bad). Here is to hoping for a brutal winter...

From what I understand from attending neighborhood police meetings, when you call the cops, you just can't report criminal activity and thn hang up, you have to give good physical descriptions of the perps such as race, gender, and especially what they re wearing or the cops will take their time to arrive (if at all).

**MariusPontmercy** · 10-06-2012, 09:47 PM

Why doesn't the manager just shoo them away with a broom? Trying to talk them off his stoop obviously isn't going to work.

However I'd recommend getting on the cops' butts about this so they move them on for good. Otherwise they'll just be on the next stoop over.