help me settle a debate... is old city in center city?

[John Goodman]

Is old city a section of center city or is center city a separate entity?

[qweezyq]

Is old city a section of center city or is center city a separate entity?

If you expect your debate to be settled by posting this, you are not very familiar with this board.

I vote for in CC, but I have a very expanded view of CC.

[thegreattwizz]

Depends who you ask. If you consider Washington Sq West Center City, then yes, Old City is still Center City. As far as I'm concerned, CC is bounded by the rivers, South Street, and either Spring Garden or Girard (the latter if you could consider NoLibs part of CC).

[SouthStMan]

Depends who you ask. If you consider Washington Sq West Center City, then yes, Old City is still Center City. As far as I'm concerned, CC is bounded by the rivers, South Street, and either Spring Garden or Girard (the latter if you could consider NoLibs part of CC).

Right. The CCD has a tighter definition, not of Center City - but of the "Center City District" ... which is where some get confused. But generally speaking, Center City Philadelphia is river to river and South to Spring Garden Sts.

[Burholme06]

I consider CC to be the original city boundaries - river to river, Vine to South.

[SouthStMan]

I consider CC to be the original city boundaries - river to river, Vine to South.

True ... I remember when my friend moved north of Vine back in the early 80s - he was chastised for moving out of Center City ... of course, now he has a great space that he got for pennies on the dollar decades ago! LOL

[loveisnoise]

Old City is a neighborhood within the boundaries of Center City.

Now, can someone tell me what the **** is a Newbold?!?!

[SouthStMan]

Old City is a neighborhood within the boundaries of Center City. Now, can someone tell me what the **** is a Newbold?!?!

About $34 per pound, these days!

[loveisnoise]

About $34 per pound, these days!

Does that come with fixin's? Can't eat my Newbold without cranberry sauce. The jelly kind that looks like the can it came out of. F' that fresh stuff.

[Litter Box]

Does that come with fixin's? Can't eat my Newbold without cranberry sauce. The jelly kind that looks like the can it came out of. F' that fresh stuff.

I have been hunting the elusive Newbold for some time now and have found where it lives but have not spotted it yet.

[thegreattwizz]

I have been hunting the elusive Newbold for some time now and have found where it lives but have not spotted it yet.

Tasker Ave to Wolf Street, S Broad Street to S 18th Street

from Newbold, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Dayman]

I consider CC to be the original city boundaries - river to river, Vine to South.

This is my definition as well.

[supersupper]

It's a matter of degrees.

NY, Manhattan, Lower Manhattan, SOHO, bleeker street.

Philly, Center City, Center City East, Old City, Elfreths Alley


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In any case, no one in their right mind says "downtown". If that helps your quandry any.

[qweezyq]

If you are going to put spring garden or girard as the border over Vine, then you may as well extend the southern end to Washington.

[PhilaCap]

is olde kensington part of kensington?

[seand]

Now, can someone tell me what the **** is a Newbold?!?!

I thought it was a tasty beverage bottled the Philadlephia Brewing Company with an inexplicable 50's moderne theme to the label.

Inexplicable because nothing about the eastern edge of Point Breeze is notably 50's moderne, nor were they big on hoppy IPA's in the Jetsony 50's. Require further investigation. In my stomach, perhaps.

[hubba1]

Does that come with fixin's? Can't eat my Newbold without cranberry sauce. The jelly kind that looks like the can it came out of. F' that fresh stuff.

I had to buy fixins with my Newbold... then again, I have a very old portion of Newbold.

[MarketStEl]

The City Planning Commission's definition of Center City sticks to the 1682 city limits, which were the rivers, Vine on the north and Cedar (now South) on the south. Within those boundaries lie Old City, Society Hill, Washington Square West, Chinatown, Rittenhouse Square, Fitler Square and Logan Square.

The Central Philadelphia Development Corporation (sister to the Center City District) also has an expanded definition that extends from Girard Avenue on the north to Washington Avenue on the south - a territory I usually refer to as "Greater Center City" when I write about it.

[billy ross]

Why mention only three of the five original squares? The other two are being converted to residential, slowly. I guess the answer is that within your map are some unnamed 'holes'. I have a feeling that they will have names before the next boom is out.

The City Planning Commission's definition of Center City sticks to the 1682 city limits, which were the rivers, Vine on the north and Cedar (now South) on the south. Within those boundaries lie Old City, Society Hill, Washington Square West, Chinatown, Rittenhouse Square, Fitler Square and Logan Square.

The Central Philadelphia Development Corporation (sister to the Center City District) also has an expanded definition that extends from Girard Avenue on the north to Washington Avenue on the south - a territory I usually refer to as "Greater Center City" when I write about it.

[MarketStEl]

Why mention only three of the five original squares? The other two are being converted to residential, slowly. I guess the answer is that within your map are some unnamed 'holes'. I have a feeling that they will have names before the next boom is out.

I was referring to the names of Center City neighborhoods in the prior post. Neither Franklin nor Center squares lend their names to neighborhoods adjacent to or surrounding them.

Franklin Square separates Old City from Chinatown.

Center Square, sitting as it does smack in the middle of the business district, is in no "neighborhood."