Has the officer been arrested for assault?
Not to speak for Thoth, but I think his point is that Police should not sucker punch people in the face after they spray them with silly-string. Maybe a more proportional response would have been in order?
You can keep repeating "oh, i agree the cop was in the wrong, but...", but you're weaseling around what him being in the wrong actually means, and pushing the same line as everyone else that if you bother a cop you should have a reasonable expectation that they can hurt you, consequence-free. My point, from the beginning, is that that is a bad policing strategy, but it's also illegal. You seem to think there should be no repercussions beyond the cop being "reprimanded", whatever that means, and that this woman deserves nothing for getting her jaw knocked in, because she acted like a more or less law abiding ****head before that happened. How are you not endorsing this behavior?
I read an article a while back that said that officers aren't usually punished for infractions because they don't want officers to have to second guesz decisions that must be made in a split second. I understand the reasoning behind that but that seems like something that should apply during dangerous situations. Silly string or what don't seem to pose much of a threat. The fact that a commanding officer went ballistic like that speaks to a culture problem within the PPD and it isn't good when intelligent people try to condone their actions.
Everyone talks about how stressful police work is. It definitely seems to be, but when you've reached the point where you can snap at the smallest provocation, it might be time for a vacation or retirement.
Isn't it ironic that the officer involved is in charge of a non-violence initiative?
Philadelphia cop who punched woman on video to be fired | 6abc.com
Philadelphia Police Lt. To Be Terminated After Controversial Video - CBS PhillyAction News has learned that the officer, Lt. Jonathan Josey, will be fired on Thursday afternoon.
Fox 29 is reporting the same.The Philadelphia Police lieutenant seen on video allegedly punching a woman during Sunday’s Puerto Rican Day celebration will be terminated, Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said Wednesday.
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“Guys like you I would dispatch with my roofing axe.” -- BootsywannabeACretin
So now....it's open season? Throw whatever the phuque you want at cops since there will be no ramifications?
Ok, let's go with that.
I am not the Jackass Whisperer.
If the cop arrested the woman for obstruction of justice, it would have been appropriate. He had absolutely no right to escalate the situation and assault the woman. He showed a gross lack of judgement and misuse of power. He needed to be fired. I certainly don't want someone of authority to act the way that he did.
Let's relieve some of these pictures, and imagine we are officers trying to handle this.
We see beautiful children celebrating their heritage. In picture 12 we see two young kids on an illegal dirt bike, which we all complain about. Picture 19, two girls hanging out the window, and one out the sunroof, and one sitting on the roof. Picture 21, two very young girls sitting on the roof of a moving car. Picture 22, one doggy style on the roof of a car. 23, another picture of the illegal dirt bike coming down the street. 25, a guy in a saw mask, I'm sure just to celebrate. 37, the ol silly string out the car. 35, a lovely couple dancing on the roof of a moving car. But my all time favorite. number 47. A motorist drinking Four Loco, while six girls ride on the roof of a moving car
So maybe put yourself in the place of these officers. I'm sure they were getting total corporation from the community, and things got over heated. Right, wrong or indifferent **** happens. Does this cop deserve to lose his job, imho , no. But some of you will be very happy,so good for you
Edit: Now I'm reading her charges were dropped. How does it make any sense at all to drop the charges because of what someone did after she broke the law? That kind of stuff happens because well-meaning but dumb people romanticize the woman as part of condemning the cop.
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Both were in the wrong. However, I don't think the cop should have been fired. A suspension without pay for a bit would have been more appropriate. I do not agree that charges against the woman should have been dropped. She was provoking a police officer.
But then again, the police department has to be PC and not rile up the community. The situation is already tense between police and Hispanics
I will say this though. The community has no reason to whine when the police are afraid to do anything for fear of accusations of brutality.