Kemble Park Apartments

[eldondre]

at 5701 Kemble Ave
what's up with this attractive, midrise apartment building? It appears abandoned. It was bought for $1.65 million in 2006. anyone know anything? seems like an ok area

[billy ross]

at 5701 Kemble Ave
what's up with this attractive, midrise apartment building? It appears abandoned. It was bought for $1.65 million in 2006. anyone know anything? seems like an ok area

I think vandals broke in and stole the copper. Iron Stone partners bought the mortgage, I think, and foreclosed on it, or maybe they're in the process of foreclosure. They bought two large apartment complexes across the street from each other, and they were trying to unload one of them. I am not sure which is which. These are the guys who did the old Y across from the MSB (now a fancy hotel) and also the old MCP hospital site. While they seem like they would make attractive housing for LaSalle students, it is my understanding that LaSalle isn't looking for housing for its students.

[eldondre]

I think vandals broke in and stole the copper. Iron Stone partners bought the mortgage, I think, and foreclosed on it, or maybe they're in the process of foreclosure. They bought two large apartment complexes across the street from each other, and they were trying to unload one of them. I am not sure which is which. These are the guys who did the old Y across from the MSB (now a fancy hotel) and also the old MCP hospital site. While they seem like they would make attractive housing for LaSalle students, it is my understanding that LaSalle isn't looking for housing for its students.

there's not exactly an overabundance of moderately priced apartment buildings in the city so I'd imagine if they're relatively nice and reasonable they should be attactive so some LaSalle students graduate or working professionals) as well as others. seems like a decent area, too bad Broad & olney isn't nicer, short walk to the subway. something like this would probably work. strikes me as being similar to chelten ave in some ways
Julien Apartments

[eldondre]

Opponents are looking to block plans to bring formerly homeless transgendered men and women, along with a group of mentally disabled elderly residents, to the Kemble Park apartment building at 5701 Kemble Ave

At-risk housing plan faces Kemble Avenue neighborhood opposition tonight

probably not good for a neighborhood struggling to reinvent itself

[NickFromGtown]

This should probably be in the Northwest Philadelphia forum.

As for the topic at hand here, you have to be kidding me. How is this not student housing for La Salle students? This building would be PERFECT for this sort of purpose. I am tired of these kinds of proposals being made in Philadelphia, especially Northwest Philadelphia. WE ARE BEYOND SATURATION.

[eldondre]

This should probably be in the Northwest Philadelphia forum.

As for the topic at hand here, you have to be kidding me. How is this not student housing for La Salle students? This building would be PERFECT for this sort of purpose. I am tired of these kinds of proposals being made in Philadelphia, especially Northwest Philadelphia. WE ARE BEYOND SATURATION.

whether it's official housing or not, you'd certainly expect a fair amount of students if it were reasonably priced market rate housing.

[NickFromGtown]

whether it's official housing or not, you'd certainly expect a fair amount of students if it were reasonably priced market rate housing.

Yeah, this would be perfect for non-official housing.

[eldondre]

this is why neighborhood groups form even if some go out of control like on south broad. I think this guy is right

The deteriorating building at 5701 Kemble Ave. is slated to be renovated to house two at-risk-populations. ..It's really sad that they're doing this to our neighborhood," said Byron Collins, 68, who lives one block from the building, noting that it's oversaturation at its best. "Not too far from here, they already have a drug rehab center and the patients all filter down here and creep in people's backyards. It's gotten to the point where it's not even safe around here anymore and this new place is only going to make it worse."..

Neighbors say at-risk housing proposal doesn't belong on Kemble Avenue

the city needs to be looking to stabilize this area and help it reinvent itself before it falls off a cliff, not help nail the coffin. these guys must have overpaid and are looking for a taxpayer bailout if they are truly the owners of these other properties. ..and its deteriorating because they have sat on it for so long.

I think vandals broke in and stole the copper. Iron Stone partners bought the mortgage, I think, and foreclosed on it, or maybe they're in the process of foreclosure. They bought two large apartment complexes across the street from each other, and they were trying to unload one of them. I am not sure which is which. These are the guys who did the old Y across from the MSB (now a fancy hotel) and also the old MCP hospital site. While they seem like they would make attractive housing for LaSalle students, it is my understanding that LaSalle isn't looking for housing for its students.

edited to add: looks like it was sold october 2010
DATA TREE HOLDINGS LLC with the previous owners taking a bath (loss of $650k)
1200 RIVER AVE STE 9G
LAKEWOOD
NJ
08701
Market Value: $575,000 Sales Date: 10/13/2010
Assessed Land (Taxable): $54,574 Sales Price: $1,000,000
http://opa.phila.gov/opa.apps/Search...?id=4728005701

[donnaturner]

This is different of all the park Apartments.....

this is why neighborhood groups form even if some go out of control like on south broad. I think this guy is right

the city needs to be looking to stabilize this area and help it reinvent itself before it falls off a cliff, not help nail the coffin. these guys must have overpaid and are looking for a taxpayer bailout if they are truly the owners of these other properties. ..and its deteriorating because they have sat on it for so long.



edited to add: looks like it was sold october 2010
DATA TREE HOLDINGS LLC with the previous owners taking a bath (loss of $650k)
1200 RIVER AVE STE 9G
LAKEWOOD
NJ
08701
Market Value: $575,000 Sales Date: 10/13/2010
Assessed Land (Taxable): $54,574 Sales Price: $1,000,000

[eldondre]

Ogontz residents continue to fight the city's plan to bring supervised housing for two at-risk groups to the former Kemble Park apartments, officials say the law is on their side and the project is urgently needed...a first-of-its kind transitional housing and treatment facility for 18 formerly homeless transgender and gender variant people. In another part of the site, the Sojourn Program would move in a larger group of seniors, most with mental health issues and other medical needs, from a nearby high-rise building

Neighbors, supporters remain at odds over Kemble Park project
in some ways both sides are right. the facility is needed, it just isn't needed in an already struggling neighborhood

[MariusPontmercy]

Neighbors, supporters remain at odds over Kemble Park project
in some ways both sides are right. the facility is needed, it just isn't needed in an already struggling neighborhood

So where should it go? A good neighborhood? An already bad neighborhood?

The issue isn't where it goes it's how it's implemented. We're dealing with the mentally ill here. If they're housed in the proper institutions and watched, as they ought to be, you won't have any problems. The issue is that we tend to want to think those with mental illnesses are ok by themselves, so it's fine to just give them a place to sleep and remind them to take their meds and everything will work out great. That may be true with some, but there are those that should not be left alone, for their own safety and the safety of others.

[eldondre]

So where should it go? A good neighborhood? An already bad neighborhood?
The issue isn't where it goes it's how it's implemented. We're dealing with the mentally ill here. If they're housed in the proper institutions and watched, as they ought to be, you won't have any problems. The issue is that we tend to want to think those with mental illnesses are ok by themselves, so it's fine to just give them a place to sleep and remind them to take their meds and everything will work out great. That may be true with some, but there are those that should not be left alone, for their own safety and the safety of others.

those are a lot of ifs. yes, there should be some kind of cap on how many social services can be put in one particular area otherwise it tends to bring entire neighborhoods down. there also seems to be some debate about who, exactly, it's for

transitional housing and treatment facility

people hear treatment facility and they probably think methadone...and I don't know anyone that wants to live next to one of those. it really does bring in people you don't want in your neighborhood in my experience. those types of things would be better off in a hospital complex in my opinion where there might be proper security, etc.
I don't think that's the issue at all, people with mental illnesses are not fine on their own. the issue is, who is really going to use this and how many social services should one neighborhood shoulder. bear in mind that the mentally disabled seniors is only a part of the operation

[eldondre]

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