Another officer was just shot -Germantown and Indiana

**MikePenn** · 02-26-2009, 12:16 PM

Fox news just said an officer was shot on Indiana

**Malloy** · 02-26-2009, 12:19 PM

Cop was shot in leg at Germantown and Indiana. The shooter was killed.

**MikePenn** · 02-26-2009, 12:22 PM

Fox just showed the punk sprawled out on the sidewalk

**Tobias** · 02-26-2009, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Malloy

Cop was shot in leg at Germantown and Indiana. The shooter was killed.

Hope the cop is OK. I'm glad the criminal was killed.

**Malloy** · 02-26-2009, 12:31 PM

Plain clothes cop FYI

**jet3to** · 02-26-2009, 12:32 PM

This proves the perps do not respect our officers.Prison is not an effective deterrent.Any perp pointing a lethal/or look-a-like weapon at an officer should be shot & killed.They dont belong in a civil society.Germantown Ave shoppers should not be subjected to street violence.It is depressing,there are many law-abiding folks,subjected to gun-toting unemployables.This perp will never be a taxpayer,he probably has a few kids on welfare & takes his frustration on a peace officer

**NE19149** · 02-26-2009, 01:05 PM

One of my customers refers to this situation as:
"a cancer that ultimately needs to be irradicated from society in order for society to sustain a healthy existence."

Someone, a body of authority representing the People, should be assembled and appointed to thoroughly weed thru criminal history records and single out those career criminals.
Then a trackdown is initiated, placing these _____ into a facility as "risks to society".

What's so damn hard about that?
The taxpayers I'm sure would approve!

**Mr. Brightside** · 02-26-2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by MikePenn

Fox just showed the punk sprawled out on the sidewalk

We should see more of this.

Good riddance.

**Outlaw Star** · 02-26-2009, 01:35 PM

Police officer wounded, gunman killed in shootout | Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/26/2009

Love this part:

The wounded officer, a detective in major crimes who was not immediately identified, was reported in stable condition at Temple University Hospital with a leg wound. He reportedly walked into the hospital on his own.

That's badass.

**GMonkey** · 02-26-2009, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by jet3to

This proves the perps do not respect our officers.Prison is not an effective deterrent.Any perp pointing a lethal/or look-a-like weapon at an officer should be shot & killed.They dont belong in a civil society.Germantown Ave shoppers should not be subjected to street violence.It is depressing,there are many law-abiding folks,subjected to gun-toting unemployables.This perp will never be a taxpayer,he probably has a few kids on welfare & takes his frustration on a peace officer

Did you miss the part about the officer being plain-clothed?

**Valley Twin** · 02-26-2009, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by GMonkey

Did you miss the part about the officer being plain-clothed?

he knew they were cops. he didn't open the door and shoot. He opened the door and slammed it shut when they identified themselves as police. They then broke the door open and ran in after him at which point he turned and shot them. He knew exactly who he was shooting.

**Glenn Quagmire** · 02-26-2009, 03:56 PM

Excellent shooting by the officers

**Tobias** · 02-26-2009, 05:47 PM

I wonder how long this one's rap sheet was.

**NE19149** · 02-26-2009, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias

I wonder how long this one's rap sheet was.

It doesn't matter now does it?.......LOL
It's a closed case box waiting to get dusty in the basement of city hall....ROFL!

........NEXT!

**Colin P. Varga** · 02-27-2009, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Outlaw Star

Police officer wounded, gunman killed in shootout | Philadelphia Inquirer | 02/26/2009

Love this part:

That's badass.

Bullets make neat little holes. To do real damage they have to hit a bone or major organ, or make a really big hole in a muscle. Little Nicky Scarfo was shot nine times in the chest and lived. The shooter missed all the major organs.

I'm glad this officer is recovering.

**five apples** · 02-27-2009, 10:02 AM

This story was not on the homepage of philly.com this morning. But was on the Inquirer homepage.

**Mr. Brightside** · 02-27-2009, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Colin P. Varga

Bullets make neat little holes.

That depends on a number of things.

A hollow point does not always make a need little whole. Upon impact the bullet can expand and makes a huge gaping hole. The slower the velocity of the bullet, the less likely it is to punch a "neat little hole" through a subject.

A hollow point fired from a .45, which is pretty large diameter bullet to begin with, is slow moving and it usually produces good expansion. The hole produced is generally not neat, and not very little.

You're right that a lot of it is random though. One dude might get plugged in the chest a couple of times and manage to survive; the next dude might catch one in the leg and bleed to death before help can arrive.

**Colin P. Varga** · 03-02-2009, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Brightside

That depends on a number of things.

A hollow point does not always make a need little whole. Upon impact the bullet can expand and makes a huge gaping hole. The slower the velocity of the bullet, the less likely it is to punch a "neat little hole" through a subject.

A hollow point fired from a .45, which is pretty large diameter bullet to begin with, is slow moving and it usually produces good expansion. The hole produced is generally not neat, and not very little.

Your right that a lot of it is random though. One dude might get plugged in the chest a couple of times and manage to survive; the next dude might catch one in the leg and bleed to death before help can arrive.

Det. Bittenbinder said that if someone pulls a gun on you and you can run away, run. Each step you take lessens the chances of being hit and statistically most gun shots aren't fatal.

**Sailaway** · 03-04-2009, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Colin P. Varga

Det. Bittenbinder said that if someone pulls a gun on you and you can run away, run. Each step you take lessens the chances of being hit and statistically most gun shots aren't fatal.

If you're unarmed, good advice. If you think you can draw and fire a good shot, perhaps that's the best method. Every case is different and you've got to make that fight-or-flight decision based on the specifics of your situation. Also, some tacticians claim that zig-zagging helps when running.