No More Shore? Winter 2010 Could make that possible?

[mixiboi]

So, after November's hurricane like storm, the shore got destroyed...Well, some are saying that its not over yet, and we might get ready more storms this winter, as with El Nino is back and it causes many storms like the one that hit this month, and with the shores defenseless, that may put the final nail in our shore towns:

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Video: John Bolaris' Winter Snow Forecast

[redpinstripes]

Never thought I'd live long enough to see John Bolaris cited as an authority on winter weather by anyone in Philadelphia.

[Dayman]

John Bolaris doesn't do the actual forecast, his interns do.

Now, as a failed meteorologist, I gotta tell you, predicting with any real accuracy anything more than two days from now is difficult. All they can look at is trends and compare what's going on now to years past. The accuracy of these long term forecasts are REALLY bad.

[eldondre]

Don't they have to rebuild the coastline anyways because the sand keeps getting moved to Maryland?

[Dayman]

Some coasts, not wildwood.

[Mr Morley]

Hurrican Schwartz should have killed Bolaris when he had the chance.

[Dayman]

Hurricane is a deity in the PSU meteo dept.

[mixiboi]

lol, always with weather you never know what will happen.

But the point here is that the beaches are in shambles, never seen before and if we get one or two more storms(which is very likely this year) I don't think they have any beach ready for May....


Which is the point here, what is going to happen when this happens? Becasue right now I'd bet on a couple more noreasterns before April 2010...

[mixiboi]

This is what they don't want to be hearing, and we are only in December:

Meteorologists warn that this could become another full-blown nor'easter with howling winds at the Shore and significant erosion of beaches that already have weathered a brutal fall.

The storm is expected for form in the eastern Gulf of Mexico and migrate to the Atlantic Coast, where it would become a sand-erasing nor'easter.

That has been a familiar scenario the last two months, a pattern related to the El Niño, the expansive area of warm water over the tropical Pacific, that continues to intensify.

Poirier said the pattern so far is reminiscent of the winter of 1997-98, when a strong El Niño energized the coastal storm track into February.

[Dayman]

That's what you get for BUILDING ON BARRIER ISLANDS. They're called barriers for a reason...

[salf]

On the plus side Guidos won't have a place to hang out.

[Bob_Head]

Hurricane is a deity in the PSU meteo dept.

Which explains why all the Oklahoma is the best Met program in the US.

[Malloy]

The Townsends Inlet side of Sea Isle is in bad shape....

[mixiboi]

And if the storms don't kill it:

Officials: Ruling could kill beach replenishment | Philadelphia Inquirer | 12/23/2009

A ruling to compensate the owners of a Long Beach Island property nearly $500,000 for loss of their ocean view could threaten the future of government-funded beach-replenishment projects, officials say.

Borough leaders say they were stunned this month when a court-appointed panel in Ocean County awarded Martin Flumenbaum and Ruth Hochberger $480,000 for an easement needed in a $25 million federal beach-replenishment project in Harvey Cedars.

The pair's East 83d Street vacation home, assessed at $3 million, is on a corner lot where the Army Corps of Engineers intends to create a 25-foot protective dune. The easement was one of 11 taken by the borough through eminent domain in July 2008 after property owners refused to give the corps access.

The easements, which do not transfer ownership of the land, permit the corps entree to widen the beach and build dunes.

Harvey Cedars offered Flumenbaum and Hochberger $300 for the 8,500-square-foot swath of land. According to the borough, the municipal appraiser set compensation after weighing the project's benefit in protecting the owners' property from storm damage and erosion vs. the loss of the view from the first floor of their two-story structure.

[lewblum]

The ruling will be overturned.

The shore is a huge driver of NJ's economy.

Compensation like this will destroy that economy.

[billpa]

How much money has been spent over the past twenty years "restoring" the shoreline in New Jersey? I lived in Ocean County in the 90s and it was an ongoing theme. Restoration seems like the most important thing to do for those small boro councilmen because their economy depends on it. But is it money worth spending long-term? Nature will do whatever she wants and, as someone's pointed out, it seems as if she's been in the mood to move sand to Wildwood at the expense of other beach towns.

[Digthepast]

never thought i'd live long enough to see john bolaris cited as an authority on winter weather by anyone in philadelphia.

roflmao!

[gakski]

http://forums.accuweather.com/index....post&id=103229

[Dayman]

If this cold front expected from the west is weak or delayed we may very well be hit.

[Digthepast]

That's what you get for BUILDING ON BARRIER ISLANDS. They're called barriers for a reason...

True that! Beaches move. Inlets move. You can "armor" them all you want, and throw sand at them until the end of time, and it won't change a thing.