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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul G. Humber View Post
    2. Social security number that Mr. Obama is using currently 042-68-4425, is a number, fraudulently obtained by Mr. Obama, as according to affidavits of Mr. Sankey, Ms. Daniels and former immigration officer, private investigator Mr. Sampson, this number was assigned between 1976-1977 in CT, while Mr. Obama resided at a time in HI. As a matter of fact, Mr. Obama never resided in CT.

    3. 042-68-4425 was originally assigned to an individual born in 1890, which makes him 120 years old. It appears this individual applied for the benefits when he was older and retired, and needed some Medicaire or Medicaid benefits. Mr. Obama is not 120 years old.
    That's some genius research and sound legal reasoning right there. Which is it, dummy?

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    1. Is this really President Obama's SSN?

    2. Why would she publish someone's SSN? Because of this she does open herself to a lawsuit. Unless she knows that it isn't the President's SSN.

    3. Using Lexus/Nexus is not evidence that this is the President's SSN.

    The credibility of Taitz, Humber, and the other people continuing to perpetrate this hoax is seriously in doubt. It's unfortunate for Paul because I sense a decent person who wants to do the right thing, but the Birthers are far from it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul G. Humber View Post
    This was posted today, 3/15/10, by Dr. Orly Taitz ESQ

    Attention Ms. Dawn S. Wiggins
    Freedom of Information Officer
    Social Security Administration
    6401 Security Blvd
    Baltimore, MD 21235-6401

    Appeal of denial of disclosure of information under FOIA 5 USC §552(b)(6)

    Demand for Administrative Hearing

    Dear Ms. Wiggins

    I am in receipt of your letter from 03.03.10., reference S9H: AD2135 and I respectfully appeal your denial of disclosure of information under FOIA 5 USC 552 (b)(6) and I demand an administrative hearing within 30 days for the following reasons:

    1. According to affidavits, provided by licensed investigators Mr. Neil Sankey and Ms. Susan Daniels (Exhibits A, B) Mr. Obama has used multiple social security numbers, which indicates social security fraud and identity theft. One does not have an expectation of privacy and right to privacy, when he uses identity of others. Moreover, such individual is subject to criminal prosecution for such crimes. If you, as a Social Security officer, upon receiving such information, are refusing to act and prosecute, you become complicit and subject to criminal liability for aiding and abetting of felonies, subornation of felonies and under RICO.

    2. Social security number that Mr. Obama is using currently 042-68-4425, is a number, fraudulently obtained by Mr. Obama, as according to affidavits of Mr. Sankey, Ms. Daniels and former immigration officer, private investigator Mr. Sampson, this number was assigned between 1976-1977 in CT, while Mr. Obama resided at a time in HI. As a matter of fact, Mr. Obama never resided in CT.

    3. 042-68-4425 was originally assigned to an individual born in 1890, which makes him 120 years old. It appears this individual applied for the benefits when he was older and retired, and needed some Medicaire or Medicaid benefits. Mr. Obama is not 120 years old.

    4. Official Selective Service web site confirms Mr. Obama’s use of the SSN 042-68-4425

    5. Anyone bringing forward the matter of this fraud is subjected to retaliation. Investigator Sankey lost his privileges to use Lexis Nexis, which effectively took away his ability to obtain livelihood as a licensed investigator. Mr. Sampson lost his privileges to use Locator service, which effectively took away his ability to obtain livelihood. Major Stefan Frederick Cook was fired from his $120,000 position working for defense contractor, officer Ronald Dischler in Belleview Texas was threatened with investigation. Such behavior by Obama administration is indicative of a need to hide incriminating evidence.

    6. I am currently a Republican Party Candidate on the ballot running for the position of the Secretary of State of California. I personally, my husband and my three children were subjected to horrific intimidation, harassment, death threats, tampering with my car, cyber crimes, tampering with my pay-pal account, web site, defamation of character and other crimes.(see letter to Mr. Neal Kelley, Registrar of Voters of Orange County CA, Exhibit C).
    Persecutions were so horrific, that I had to seek protection from the UN, Civil Rights Defenders Commission in Geneva, Switzerland.

    Wherefore, due to the above mentioned I demand disclosure of requested information, specifically original application for SSN 042-68-4425 and explanation of use of other multiple Social Security numbers by Mr. Obama. If you refuse to grant this appeal, I demand an administrative hearing within 30 days.

    Sincerely,

    Dr. Orly Taitz, ESq
    29839 Santa Margarita Pkwy, ste 100
    Rancho Santa Margarita CA 92688

    Cc Royce C. Lamberth Chief Judge US District Court District of Columbia, re 10-cv-151-RCL Taitz v Obama

    Cc John J Roberts, Chief Justice Supreme Court of the United States, Associate Justices of the Supreme Court, re 08A524 Lightfoot v Bowen

    Cc 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, San Francisco, CA, re Barnett et al v Obama et al 09-c-82

    Cc 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, Atlanta GA, re Rhodes v Macdonald et al 09-15418, Cook et v Goodet al 09-14698

    Cc Robert Mueller, Director of FBI

    Cc Eric Holder, Attorney General of the United States

    Cc Mark Sullivan, Director of Secret Service

    Cc United Nations Commission for Civil Rights Defenders, Geneva, Switzerland
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    Default From "dummy" to Kev

    Kev: That's some genius research and sound legal reasoning right there. Which is it, dummy?

    Dummy: A person born in 1890 would 46 in 1936, when Social Security got started. Maybe he died in 1975 at the age of 85. Maybe someone, who could not show his citizenship, wanted a social security card and number in 1976. Makes sense to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyKev View Post
    That's some genius research and sound legal reasoning right there. Which is it, dummy?

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    Paul, I was researching up Orly's and her activities, she's clearly diagnosable, she most certainly has persecutory delusions (even before the whole Obama thing) and I wouldn't be surprised if she was schizophrenic. There is clearly something wrong with her mentally, and even if she agreed with me I'd distance myself as far as possible from her. I mean even Bill O'Reilly called her a nut.

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    Default Attorney General of VA

    I’m beginning to like Kenneth T. 'Ken' Cuccinelli II, Attorney General of VA! You can hear a video below, but here is the transcript, found at Ken Cuccinelli, Virginia Attorney General, Clarifies Obama Birther Statements

    Q: What can we do about Obama and the birth certificate thing?

    Cuccinelli: It will get tested in my view when someone -- when he signs a law, and someone is convicted of violating it and one of their defenses will be it's not a law because someone qualified to be President didn't sign it.

    Q: Is that something you can do as Attorney General? Can you do that or something?

    Cuccinelli: Well only if there is a conflict where we're suing the federal government for a law they've passed. So it's possible.

    Q: Because we are talking about the possibility that he was not born in America.

    Cuccinelli: Right. But at the same time under Rule 11, Federal Rule 11, we gotta have proof of it.

    Q: How can we get proof?

    Cuccinelli: Well... that's a good question. Not one I've thought a lot about because it hasn't been part of my campaign. I mean, someone is going to have to come forward with nailed down testimony that he was born in place B, wherever that is. You know, the speculation is Kenya. And that doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility.

    “Not only did Cuccinelli appear to stand up for birther claims, but the Virginia Attorney General went on to lay the groundwork for a potential court case challenging President Obama's birth certificate.”

    Here is the video: YouTube - IS ATTORNEY GENERAL KEN CUCCINELLI A BIRTHER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin P. Varga View Post
    It's unfortunate for Paul because I sense a decent person who wants to do the right thing, but the Birthers are far from it.
    Really? Because I sense a total idiot with no compunctions about lying, misrepresenting others, and spreading slander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunda View Post
    Really? Because I sense a total idiot with no compunctions about lying, misrepresenting others, and spreading slander.
    The Birther thing, particularly the blanket endorsement of the insane psuedo-Christian racist preacher Robert Manning, the ATLAH guy, sealed the deal for me on Paul Humber. Here's wiki on Manning.

    James David Manning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Its obvious to me that Paul Humber simply does not walk the walk of someone who actually sees themselves as a follower of Jesus's teachings to give blanket endorsement of Manning's anti-Obama screeds, as Paul has done repeatedly in this very thread.

    I stopped believing that Paul Humber is either a nice man or what I would call a "real" Christian as a result. Your mileage may vary.

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    Hey...would ya look that that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayman View Post
    I mean even Bill O'Reilly called her a nut.
    I have considerably more respect for Dr. Taitz than O'Reilly.

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    I think Humber has me on ignore since he stopped directly responding a while ago to my posts.

    No response to Taitz's $20k fine for frivolous wasting the court's time.

    Not surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seand View Post
    I think Humber has me on ignore since he stopped directly responding a while ago to my posts.

    No response to Taitz's $20k fine for frivolous wasting the court's time.

    Not surprising.
    He rarely actually engages with anyone "debating" him. He just drops into the thread, posts some garbage, and moves on. We're all the tools who keep worked up over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunda View Post
    He rarely actually engages with anyone "debating" him. He just drops into the thread, posts some garbage, and moves on. We're all the tools who keep worked up over it.
    It's probably a good idea to encourage his rants because it exposes the mindset of the fundamentalist right and sounds a warning bell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunda View Post
    He rarely actually engages with anyone "debating" him. He just drops into the thread, posts some garbage, and moves on. We're all the tools who keep worked up over it.
    Thats true generally but he actually responds sometimes to others. He used to respond to me sometimes but then just stopped. I think he both has me (and probably one or two others) on ignore (because I've been a little harsher) and also does the "dump and run" posting. Which is remarkably disrepectful. But thats what Paul Humber is - disrepectful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seand View Post
    Thats true generally but he actually responds sometimes to others. He used to respond to me sometimes but then just stopped. I think he both has me (and probably one or two others) on ignore (because I've been a little harsher) and also does the "dump and run" posting. Which is remarkably disrepectful. But thats what Paul Humber is - disrepectful.
    Probably me as well. Especially after the hilarious download which prompted Dana Lynn to call me a "sad, rabid bitch."

    (Do I come across as gay via posting? Why would she use a feminine invective?)
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    Default Cuccinelli IS NOT A BIRTHER!!!!!!

    Cuccinelli told the Washingfton Post in a statement on the matter released on Monday that he
    "absolutely believe(s)” that Obama was born in America.

    I don’t buy into the claims that he wasn’t,” Cuccinelli said.


    Cuccinelli: 'We gotta have proof' that Obama is U.S. citizen | Augusta Free Press

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul G. Humber View Post
    I’m beginning to like Kenneth T. 'Ken' Cuccinelli II, Attorney General of VA! You can hear a video below, but here is the transcript, found at Ken Cuccinelli, Virginia Attorney General, Clarifies Obama Birther Statements

    Q: What can we do about Obama and the birth certificate thing?

    Cuccinelli: It will get tested in my view when someone -- when he signs a law, and someone is convicted of violating it and one of their defenses will be it's not a law because someone qualified to be President didn't sign it.

    Q: Is that something you can do as Attorney General? Can you do that or something?

    Cuccinelli: Well only if there is a conflict where we're suing the federal government for a law they've passed. So it's possible.

    Q: Because we are talking about the possibility that he was not born in America.

    Cuccinelli: Right. But at the same time under Rule 11, Federal Rule 11, we gotta have proof of it.

    Q: How can we get proof?

    Cuccinelli: Well... that's a good question. Not one I've thought a lot about because it hasn't been part of my campaign. I mean, someone is going to have to come forward with nailed down testimony that he was born in place B, wherever that is. You know, the speculation is Kenya. And that doesn't seem beyond the realm of possibility.

    “Not only did Cuccinelli appear to stand up for birther claims, but the Virginia Attorney General went on to lay the groundwork for a potential court case challenging President Obama's birth certificate.”

    Here is the video: YouTube - IS ATTORNEY GENERAL KEN CUCCINELLI A BIRTHER
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin P. Varga View Post
    Cuccinelli told the Washingfton Post in a statement on the matter released on Monday that he
    "absolutely believe(s)” that Obama was born in America.

    I don’t buy into the claims that he wasn’t,” Cuccinelli said.


    Cuccinelli: 'We gotta have proof' that Obama is U.S. citizen | Augusta Free Press
    So even the crazy guy is disavowing the crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunda View Post
    Probably me as well. Especially after the hilarious download which prompted Dana Lynn to call me a "sad, rabid bitch."

    (Do I come across as gay via posting? Why would she use a feminine invective?)
    I will personally call anyone a bitch - gay, straight, man, woman. Maybe Dana Lynn is equal opportunity like that too!

    Quote Originally Posted by Seanibus
    So even the crazy guy is disavowing the crazy.
    Doubtful. He's just moved on to other crazy things, like making sure universities in Virginia stop NOT discriminating against gays -

    washingtonpost.com

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    Hmmm, am I the only one who thinks that Orly looks a lot like Humber in drag?



    Has anyone ever seen them both at the same time?

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    She looks like a fruitloop. I think it's the eyes that get me.

    Humber in drag is a good one. A lot of sexually repressed fundies live very risque double lives, so I can definitely, definitely see it. (That's two definitely's)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sometimesilie View Post
    Humber in drag is a good one. A lot of sexually repressed fundies live very risque double lives, so I can definitely, definitely see it. (That's two definitely's)
    I read that as if Dustin Hoffman from Rainman was saying it.

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