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    Crap. This is horrible.

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    You should change that WANTED post to Mike Bloomberg, Rosie O'Donnell, and the other gun control freaks who deserve blame for this.
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    All 31 Pro-Gun Senators Refused Invitations To Appear On 'Meet The Press' | ThinkProgress

    The Sunday morning news shows were dominated by discussion of what can be done after the tragic shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT, which claimed 28 lives on Friday. Several strong gun control advocates, including Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) appeared on the morning shows to push for tighter restrictions and a new assault weapons ban. Their counterparts on the pro-gun side of the aisle, however, categorically refused to appear on MSNBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ to discuss the shooting.

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    BTW, we reached out to ALL 31 pro-gun rights Sens in the new Congress to invite them to share their views on @meetthepress - NO takers.

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    that says it all !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEDUSA View Post
    All 31 Pro-Gun Senators Refused Invitations To Appear On 'Meet The Press' | ThinkProgress

    The Sunday morning news shows were dominated by discussion of what can be done after the tragic shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT, which claimed 28 lives on Friday. Several strong gun control advocates, including Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) appeared on the morning shows to push for tighter restrictions and a new assault weapons ban. Their counterparts on the pro-gun side of the aisle, however, categorically refused to appear on MSNBC’s ‘Meet the Press’ to discuss the shooting.

    ‘Meet the Press’ producer Betsey Fischer Martin tweeted:




    Betsy Fischer Martin✔
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    BTW, we reached out to ALL 31 pro-gun rights Sens in the new Congress to invite them to share their views on @meetthepress - NO takers.

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    that says it all !!
    Yes, that MSNBC is a far-left rag, of lower journalistic integrity than Huffington Post or the National Enquirer. Yes, it absolutely says it all.
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    you live in denial ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEDUSA View Post
    you live in denial ..
    You just plain lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailaway View Post
    You should change that WANTED post to Mike Bloomberg, Rosie O'Donnell, and the other gun control freaks who deserve blame for this.
    Why do you think that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieGordon View Post
    Why do you think that?
    Because he thinks if it was legal to carry weapons at school an armed teacher would have brought down the shooter. I'm not joking.

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    Louie Gohmert is posting on Philadelphiaspeaks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEDUSA View Post


    just goes to show that the gun control advocates were almost happy this happened. they didn't give a crap about the children, it's all about their agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno View Post
    Because he thinks if it was legal to carry weapons at school an armed teacher would have brought down the shooter. I'm not joking.
    why shouldn't a school have someone that has access to a gun? After years in the military I'm guessing you know how to handle a gun. what's worse, imo, is immediately talking about guns will not explain what happened. why would someone do this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eldondre View Post
    why shouldn't a school have someone that has access to a gun? After years in the military I'm guessing you know how to handle a gun. what's worse, imo, is immediately talking about guns will not explain what happened. why would someone do this?
    Why is it inappropriate to talk about guns? They weren't killed by an earthquake or plane crash. The killer was obviously crazy, but there wouldn't have been nearly as many victims if he went to the school with a knife.

    Why do we have so many more homicides and mass shootings in the US than in other countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldondre View Post
    why shouldn't a school have someone that has access to a gun? After years in the military I'm guessing you know how to handle a gun. what's worse, imo, is immediately talking about guns will not explain what happened. why would someone do this?
    Maybe a highly qualified and vetted guard and or police officer. Just arming every teacher or allowing everyone to carry would be a disaster. All weapons on a military post are HIGHLY controlled and NO ONE is carrying their own firearm. If a weapon is missing for a few seconds the whole place goes in lock down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieGordon View Post
    Why is it inappropriate to talk about guns? They weren't killed by an earthquake or plane crash. The killer was obviously crazy, but there wouldn't have been nearly as many victims if he went to the school with a knife.

    Why do we have so many more homicides and mass shootings in the US than in other countries?
    Thats why I think its appropriate to at least discuss. Gun laws are at least part of the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldondre View Post
    just goes to show that the gun control advocates were almost happy this happened. they didn't give a crap about the children, it's all about their agenda.
    You may disagree with their methods, you may think it is an ineffective solution, you may think they propose unacceptable encroachments on freedom.. but the agenda of gun control advocates is to prevent these incidents from ever occurring. To say that they - or anyone - are happy that this happened (and that is what you're saying, your "almost" is simply perfunctory) is just horrible, and you should be ashamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Politburo View Post
    You may disagree with their methods, you may think it is an ineffective solution, you may think they propose unacceptable encroachments on freedom.. but the agenda of gun control advocates is to prevent these incidents from ever occurring. To say that they - or anyone - are happy that this happened (and that is what you're saying, your "almost" is simply perfunctory) is just horrible, and you should be ashamed.
    I also think looking at how we deal with mental illness in the US may be part of the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geno View Post
    I also think looking at how we deal with mental illness in the US may be part of the equation.
    This. This is the real crux of the argument.
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    The Facts about Mass Shootings - John Fund - National Review Online

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    ...First, the mental-health issue. A lengthy study by Mother Jones magazine found that at least 38 of the 61 mass shooters in the past three decades “displayed signs of mental health problems prior to the killings.” New York Times columnist David Brooks and Cornell Law School professor William Jacobson have both suggested that the ACLU-inspired laws that make it so difficult to intervene and identify potentially dangerous people should be loosened. “Will we address mental-health and educational-privacy laws, which instill fear of legal liability for reporting potentially violent mentally ill people to law enforcement?” asks Professor Jacobson. “I doubt it.”...
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    Quote Originally Posted by eldondre View Post
    just goes to show that the gun control advocates were almost happy this happened. they didn't give a crap about the children, it's all about their agenda.
    what bull****. nobody is "almost happy this happened" and the vast majority of people, on both sides, absolutely care about the children.

 

 

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