Obama welfare waiver

[Sailaway]

That's a shame, I guess I'll have to come up with some more metaphors about molestation to keep myself on your level

I'm sure you won't have a problem with that.

[NickTheCage]

So what part of me being a big Gary Johnson supporter (I was a Ron Paul supporter until I decided he was a tad too socially conservative for me) makes me ultra liberal? Do you not know what "ultra" means? That word means essentially the same as being a radical. I don't think you have your political continuum straight.

Considering both do not believe in govt imposing their will on the individual; what makes Ron Paul more "socially conservative" then Gary Johnson?

[NickTheCage]

C'mon the list is in no particular order:

torts
nickthecage
sailaway
randomuser

I didn't even have sailaway on there, but I guess that's cause it had been a while since a thread like this, but hoo boy.

Ah look, a whiny little troll showed up and mentioned my name again. Am I that all up in your head that you constantly post about me within your mindless drivel?

You continue to stoop lower and lower but that is expected when you can't debate facts and reason?

[Dayman]

Considering both do not believe in govt imposing their will on the individual; what makes Ron Paul more "socially conservative" then Gary Johnson?

Paul is more pro-life than I'd like, that and the racist stuff that was attached to his name (regardless if he wrote it or not, the buck stopped on him).

Likewise, I can possible say the same for you.

Nah, while I have my detractors I have more friends then enemies. I count people on here friends in real life (the liberal poseur crew).

[NickTheCage]

Paul is more pro-life than I'd like, that and the racist stuff that was attached to his name (regardless if he wrote it or not, the buck stopped on him).

I don't know. He gets a pass considering he has delivered 4K+ babies in his lifetime

Per that racist anti-semetic bs .. as a yid I dont find him or any of his positions anti-semetic

[annie]

C'mon the list is in no particular order:

torts
nickthecage
sailaway
randomuser

I thought torts was satire (...right?) and randomuser was banned.

[thoth]

You continue to stoop lower and lower but that is expected when you can't debate facts and reason?

1. NYC = Nazi Germany
2. Texas judge shooting his mouth off = Civil War II
3. Thread about the existence of the Illuminati
4. Afghan barbarians

Who can't grasp facts and reason?

I thought torts was satire (...right?) and randomuser was banned.

It's like the baseball hall of fame. You don't have to keep playing to be in it. And I'm fairly certain torts is an insane person.

[NickTheCage]

1. NYC = Nazi Germany
2. Texas judge shooting his mouth off = Civil War II
3. Thread about the existence of the Illuminati
4. Afghan barbarians

Who can't grasp facts and reason?

1. Your attitude is typical of a Germans in the 1930's BUT for various reasons I am not saying we will be rounded up in boxcars. Do you really want to re-visit that discussion? I have no problem embarrassing you again and exposing your intolerance.

2. I think that was Artic Splash but those words did come out of the judges mouth

3. No clue

4. The culture and behavior is barbaric

[ShoshTrvls]

Foxnews is pretty fair and balanced - not perfect, but decent; HuffPo and the NY Times isn't. But, I'm assuming you can read to understand that difference. Or that your compass isn't so f---ed up that you think anything short of Mother Jones/MoveOn/HuffingtonPost is "right-wing" and maybe even then.

What you know depends on what you watch: People learn most from NPR, Sunday Morning Shows, The Daily Show; least from MSNBC, Fox News

[Sailaway]

What you know depends on what you watch: People learn most from NPR, Sunday Morning Shows, The Daily Show; least from MSNBC, Fox News

The big glitch in that study is that it seems skewed for topics that NPR might cover. OTOH, had they posed this question:

"x. Which popular talk show host was accused of making vulgar statements toward a woman?"

a. Rush Limbaugh
b. Bill Maher
c. Both

Most likely, nearly all Dem, Dem-leaning and Ind. respondents would say "a" even though Maher made his statements around the same time; it just went virtually unreported apart from conservative outlets.

This one question would have heavily skewed results towards FoxNews.

[BarryG]

The big glitch in that study is that it seems skewed for topics that NPR might cover.

You mean actual news?

[Sailaway]

You mean actual news?

The news they chose to cover, yes.

[BarryG]

The news they chose to cover, yes.

Sorry I fail to see what is biased about basic American politics, Egypt, Syria, and the European debt crisis.

[OffenseTaken]

C'mon the list is in no particular order:

torts
nickthecage
sailaway
randomuser

I didn't even have sailaway on there, but I guess that's cause it had been a while since a thread like this, but hoo boy.

I thought torts was satire (...right?) and randomuser was banned.

I can never tell if torts is being an angry bigot or if he's making some Brechtian statement about angry bigots. All that can be said about him with confidence is that he's not looking forward to the new CVS.

NickTheCage seems like a pretty decent guy, who says unfortunate things like Bloomberg's super-size ban idea is worse than Hitler. As a spokesman for Libertarianism he might be utterly poor, but at least he's never nasty.

As for Sailaway, do you really think he's more "hated" than Frankford? He's certainly not ganged up on as much.

For a time I seriously suspected that Joshua Scott Albert was randomuser, since their age is not the only thing they obviously have in common. Then I realized that Albert could be fine after some psychiatric help (and a beating), whereas randomuser's crimson, unflinching hatred of everyone seemed to be more or less indelible. (Besides: if we're going to consider banned members, wouldn't ACretin have to be up there?)

No matter how short you make it, I don't see how this list could ever be complete without 2happy4u. I would be surprised if that guy knows how to breathe with his mouth closed. And he's incredibly bitchy. Not a good combination.

[annie]

For a time I seriously suspected that Joshua Scott Albert was randomuser, since their age is not the only thing they obviously have in common.

HG decided Joshua was CenterCityGuy.

[Sailaway]

Sorry I fail to see what is biased about basic American politics, Egypt, Syria, and the European debt crisis.

That's not at all surprising. There are things that get more emphasis than others - and, sometimes, not reported at all - by every outlet, and that will skew the outcomes.

The FDU study could have included the aforementioned example and/or dozens of others of valid examples from around the same time period and Fox News viewers would have come out on top. And they probably would have been more reliable than some of the questions they did ask, like the one on Egypt or K6a, which really has two answers (actually, three if you count who won Iowa in terms of delegates awarded.)

[thoth]

1. Your attitude is typical of a Germans in the 1930's BUT for various reasons I am not saying we will be rounded up in boxcars. Do you really want to re-visit that discussion? I have no problem embarrassing you again and exposing your intolerance.

You embarrassed yourself. The only intolerance I expressed in that thread was for hyperbole and people who are bad at articulating their desire for small government, a notion I largely agree with.

2. I think that was Artic Splash but those words did come out of the judges mouth

I didn't say you started all these threads:

If Obama is elected? Tool should at least be calling for secession regardless.

There is no point in functioning this way anymore. One side's ideal vision of America, is the antithesis of the other which hasn't always been the case. Everybody hasn't always agreed, but one side's vision of tomorrow wasn't seen as being a dystopian future by the other .. this is how both sides view each other. Today, if one side truly got their entire way, the other side would revolt so explain whats the point of holding on to that? We each just need to go our separate ways in a peaceful divorce.

3. No clue

http://www.philadelphiaspeaks.com/fo...-theories.html

4. The culture and behavior is barbaric

Whoa, looks like you embarrassed "me" again!

[thoth]

NickTheCage seems like a pretty decent guy, who says unfortunate things like Bloomberg's super-size ban idea is worse than Hitler. As a spokesman for Libertarianism he might be utterly poor, but at least he's never nasty.

As for Sailaway, do you really think he's more "hated" than Frankford? He's certainly not ganged up on as much.

FKD and 2happy4u both seem like strange old people who have vaguely defined conservative ideals, but speak mostly in one liners and (in FKDs case) chain email reposts and meme generator photos. They're ignorable. Sailaway and NicktheCage are clearly both intelligent people who have made rational and convincing arguments for conservative economic policies, but who have also descended into party-line feces slinging, fabrication, hyperbole and brick wall reasoning. Derailing viable and interesting conversations just to sell your brand of ideological purity is obnoxious, particularly when you have the capacity to do otherwise.

Compare: jdhill is a poster with what seems to be a similar political alignment, but who seems actually willing to discuss actual efficacy of various government policies and political philosophy and not make everything an emotionally charged **** fit. Sailaway and NicktheCage are like Bulworth with different political leanings.

[seand]

As for Sailaway, do you really think he's more "hated" than Frankford? He's certainly not ganged up on as much.

Because the things Sailaway says are so blindly partisan (and often partisan before ideological) that they are their own counterargument. Anybody who says "My team is always right your team is always wrong" that insistently discredits themselves to the point its hardly worth responding.

[Sailaway]

Because the things Sailaway says are so blindly partisan (and often partisan before ideological) that they are their own counterargument. Anybody who says "My team is always right your team is always wrong" that insistently discredits themselves to the point its hardly worth responding.

You are really not one of the best people to be saying this. Not the worst, but far from the best.