West Nile Virus -- WOW What a Crazy News Story

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Besides acting as a wakeup call, what would be the advantage of introducing WEST NILE virus into the American environment? For a foreign terrorist, WEST NILE virus would be a poor choice of bioweapon. As a killer of old and sick people, it would not be a terribly effective b/w weapon. However, if the virus was introduced domestically as a “test” (like anthrax), the killing off of old and sick people would certainly aid the fiscal problems of Social Security and Medicare.

Currently There is a West Nile Virus almost epidemic in the USA.

http://guardianlv.com/2012/08/West-Nile-Virus-Question-that-have-never-been-answered/

A Crazy News Story, meanwhile, The West Nile Virus looks to be turning epidemic in the USA.
I Pray they are wrong!

[darthsinatra]

HERE ARE THE FACTS, which you will probably ignore.

United States: From 1999 through 2001, the CDC confirmed 149 West Nile virus infections, including 18 deaths. In 2002, a total of 4,156 cases were reported, including 284 fatalities. Thirteen cases in 2002 were contracted through blood transfusion. The cost of WNV-related health care in 2002 was estimated at $200 million. The first human West Nile disease in 2003 occurred in June, and one West Nile-infected blood transfusion was also identified that month.[57]
In the 2003 outbreak, 9,862 cases and 264 deaths were reported by the CDC. At least 30% of those cases were considered severe, involving meningitis or encephalitis. In 2004, only 2,539 cases and 100 deaths were reported. In 2005, there was a slight increase in the number of cases, with 3,000 cases and 119 deaths reported. Cases increased in 2006, with 4,269 cases and 177 deaths. In 2007, the number of cases reported decreased to 3,623 and the number of deaths dropped to 124. In 2007, 1,227 cases of WNV neuroinvasion disease and 117 deaths occurred.[58]
In 2008, West Nile surveillance data reported to CDC, a total of 28 states have reported 236 cases of human WNV illness. A total of 137 cases for which such data were available occurred in males, median age patients was 48 years. Dates of illness onset ranged from January 17 to August 14: Two cases were fatal.[59]
In 2009, 663 cases were reported; of these, 335 were encephalitis or meningitis infections, a reaction to the virus that approximately one in 150 people who get the virus will show. Three hundred and two cases were filed for West Nile fever, the most likely symptom of the virus; 26 cases were unspecified. The state of Texas had the most cases, with 104 total. The total mortality rate for 2009 was 32 deaths of the 663 reported serious cases, a 4.5% casualty rate, but only of the severe infections. Approximately 80% of cases have no symptoms, so the total casualty rate would be less than 1% of total infections in the U.S. These and earlier years data are available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.[60]
Dallas County, Texas health officials announced in the second week of August 2012 a death toll of nine so far in the county. County Judge Clay Jenkins declared a public health emergency for the county on August 9, 2012, due to the West Nile virus outbreak in the area.[61][62]

Let me highlight the most salient part of the article for you, since you probably have trouble reading small type: Approximately 80% of cases have NO symptoms, so the TOTAL casualty rate is LESS THAN 1% in the US.

Source: West Nile virus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Setting up WNV as some sort of baby/old-person killer would be about as efficient and effective as counterfeiting $1.00 bills.

I anxiously await your next set of fear-mongering, conspiracy theories and out-and-out fabrications. You make this too easy!

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HERE ARE THE FACTS, which you will probably ignore.

United States: From 1999 through 2001, the CDC confirmed 149 West Nile virus infections, including 18 deaths. In 2002, a total of 4,156 cases were reported, including 284 fatalities. Thirteen cases in 2002 were contracted through blood transfusion. The cost of WNV-related health care in 2002 was estimated at $200 million. The first human West Nile disease in 2003 occurred in June, and one West Nile-infected blood transfusion was also identified that month.[57]
In the 2003 outbreak, 9,862 cases and 264 deaths were reported by the CDC. At least 30% of those cases were considered severe, involving meningitis or encephalitis. In 2004, only 2,539 cases and 100 deaths were reported. In 2005, there was a slight increase in the number of cases, with 3,000 cases and 119 deaths reported. Cases increased in 2006, with 4,269 cases and 177 deaths. In 2007, the number of cases reported decreased to 3,623 and the number of deaths dropped to 124. In 2007, 1,227 cases of WNV neuroinvasion disease and 117 deaths occurred.[58]
In 2008, West Nile surveillance data reported to CDC, a total of 28 states have reported 236 cases of human WNV illness. A total of 137 cases for which such data were available occurred in males, median age patients was 48 years. Dates of illness onset ranged from January 17 to August 14: Two cases were fatal.[59]
In 2009, 663 cases were reported; of these, 335 were encephalitis or meningitis infections, a reaction to the virus that approximately one in 150 people who get the virus will show. Three hundred and two cases were filed for West Nile fever, the most likely symptom of the virus; 26 cases were unspecified. The state of Texas had the most cases, with 104 total. The total mortality rate for 2009 was 32 deaths of the 663 reported serious cases, a 4.5% casualty rate, but only of the severe infections. Approximately 80% of cases have no symptoms, so the total casualty rate would be less than 1% of total infections in the U.S. These and earlier years data are available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.[60]
Dallas County, Texas health officials announced in the second week of August 2012 a death toll of nine so far in the county. County Judge Clay Jenkins declared a public health emergency for the county on August 9, 2012, due to the West Nile virus outbreak in the area.[61][62]

Let me highlight the most salient part of the article for you, since you probably have trouble reading small type: Approximately 80% of cases have NO symptoms, so the TOTAL casualty rate is LESS THAN 1% in the US.

Source: West Nile virus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Setting up WNV as some sort of baby/old-person killer would be about as efficient and effective as counterfeiting $1.00 bills.

I anxiously await your next set of fear-mongering, conspiracy theories and out-and-out fabrications. You make this too easy!

This Wikipedia report on West Nile Virus is partially nonsense.
There was no test until 2005.
Now if you are quoting the WIKIPEDIA then you have very little to report that is accurate.
1 in 150 that had West Nile Die. BUT,
Then it states in 2009 that the mortality rate was 4.5%
That would be 4.5 people out of 100!
80% had no symptoms. This is BS wiki talk.
At the wikipedia anyone can contribute and change the "facts"
Right now they are almost at an epidemic outbreak in the State of Texas.
Looks like we are about to see severe outbreaks all over NJ and Pennsylvania.
Google the West Nile water tests in PA. The West Nile Virus otherwise known as the West Nile Fever in Africa has
been tested positive in the water in over 200 locations in PA!
West Nile is not treatable.
The Viral Encephalitis side effect is not treatable.
Stay away from the water? Impossible to avoid mosquitoes that are the carriers.

[darthsinatra]

So, if I understand you correctly, Wikipedia, which is edited by experts like, you know, DOCTORS, is not a reliable source, but "The Guardian Express Newspaper," which by the way does NOT have a Wikipedia page, is a reliable source? Man what color is the sky in your world?

There is no West Nile epidemic. There is no conspiracy. There is no bio-weapon whose delivery system is a mosquito.

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So, if I understand you correctly, Wikipedia, which is edited by experts like, you know, DOCTORS, is not a reliable source, but "The Guardian Express Newspaper," which by the way does NOT have a Wikipedia page, is a reliable source? Man what color is the sky in your world?

There is no West Nile epidemic. There is no conspiracy. There is no bio-weapon whose delivery system is a mosquito.

The West Nile Human Epidemic is coming real soon.
Lucky for me, I know and I am now immune, since I lived.
This mutated Strain is so strong I think it will kill most 40 year olds and up.
If you are not tested you are not written up as a statistic.

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1 in 150 that had West Nile Die. BUT,
Then it states in 2009 that the mortality rate was 4.5%
That would be 4.5 people out of 100!
80% had no symptoms. This is BS wiki talk.

read again. the wiki page does not say what i have highlighted in red.

i'm going to guess that you aren't going to put any faith in information from the CDC either, but here you go:

CDC: West Nile Virus - What You Need To Know

the CDC says 1 in 150 will develop serious symptoms and 80% show no symptoms. it says that 720 had symptoms (including serious symptomes). so, if 720 represents the 20% that show symptoms, the total number of cases would be approximately 3600.

there were 32 out of approximately 3600 cases. that's <1%. the death rate amongst people who show symptoms is 4.5%.

[darthsinatra]

read again. the wiki page does not say what i have highlighted in red.

i'm going to guess that you aren't going to put any faith in information from the CDC either, but here you go:

CDC: West Nile Virus - What You Need To Know

the CDC says 1 in 150 will develop serious symptoms and 80% show no symptoms. it says that 720 had symptoms (including serious symptomes). so, if 720 represents the 20% that show symptoms, the total number of cases would be approximately 3600.

there were 32 out of approximately 3600 cases. that's <1%. the death rate amongst people who show symptoms is 4.5%.

The CDC is a government-funded Islamist black op ivory tower.

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The CDC is a government-funded Islamist black op ivory tower.

NOW that is F* funny

The problem is in order to be diagnosed and noted as a Statistic by the CDC
with WN Virus you must to be tested twice.
There are few test kits available. The results take two weeks for the first test and wait 10 to 14 days to be tested again.
The CDC or the US Gov was not prepared for a WN Virus outbreak.

[PhilaCap]

what kind of jerk would believe this type of garbage

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NOW that is F* funny

The problem is in order to be diagnosed and noted as a Statistic by the CDC
with WN Virus you must to be tested twice.
There are few test kits available. The results take two weeks for the first test and wait 10 to 14 days to be tested again.
The CDC or the US Gov was not prepared for a WN Virus outbreak.

not sure why the timing of the tests has anything to do with the statistics, but again, not quite accurate. two tests have to be performed for positive confirmation, but both tests can happen on the same specimen. the false positive rates of the screening tests are about 5%. the time it takes to get results varies by lab, of course, but the CDC says 4-14 days for a hard copy.

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what kind of jerk would believe this type of garbage

PhilaCap,
Wait till one of them pesky skeeters bites you.
The brain fever was the worst part.
You will be unable to post your rebuttal.
Have Fun!

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PhilaCap,
Wait till one of them pesky skeeters bites you.
The brain fever was the worst part.
You will be unable to post your rebuttal.
Have Fun!

what the hickle is "brain fever"?

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what the hickle is "brain fever"?

Viral Encephalitis causes a fever at your head one of the symptoms from West Nile Virus.
The testing requires a spinal tap. Takes two weeks for the results.
Plus they have to test you twice before the CDC counts you as a statistic with WN Virus.
I wonder how many people really have WN.
80% show no symptoms but die of kidney disease many years later.

[darthsinatra]

Viral Encephalitis causes a fever at your head

This explains A LOT

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This explains A LOT

Is your Brain on Fire?

“We are in the midst of one of the worst West Nile virus outbreaks ever seen in the U.S.,” Lyle R. Petersen, director of the CDC's Division of Vector-Borne Infectious Diseases, said at a briefing.


WN Virus now reported in 47 states.

Google News: West Nile Virus

https://www.google.com/news?ncl=dV6v...n&ned=us&hl=en

[PhilaCap]

George Bush and the CIA invented west nile virus and spread it using invisible airplanes.

[darthsinatra]

george bush and the cia invented west nile virus and spread it using invisible mosquito-sized airplanes.

ftfy

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HERE ARE THE FACTS, which you will probably ignore.

United States: From 1999 through 2001, the CDC confirmed 149 West Nile virus infections, including 18 deaths. In 2002, a total of 4,156 cases were reported, including 284 fatalities. Thirteen cases in 2002 were contracted through blood transfusion. The cost of WNV-related health care in 2002 was estimated at $200 million. The first human West Nile disease in 2003 occurred in June, and one West Nile-infected blood transfusion was also identified that month.[57]
In the 2003 outbreak, 9,862 cases and 264 deaths were reported by the CDC. At least 30% of those cases were considered severe, involving meningitis or encephalitis. In 2004, only 2,539 cases and 100 deaths were reported. In 2005, there was a slight increase in the number of cases, with 3,000 cases and 119 deaths reported. Cases increased in 2006, with 4,269 cases and 177 deaths. In 2007, the number of cases reported decreased to 3,623 and the number of deaths dropped to 124. In 2007, 1,227 cases of WNV neuroinvasion disease and 117 deaths occurred.[58]
In 2008, West Nile surveillance data reported to CDC, a total of 28 states have reported 236 cases of human WNV illness. A total of 137 cases for which such data were available occurred in males, median age patients was 48 years. Dates of illness onset ranged from January 17 to August 14: Two cases were fatal.[59]
In 2009, 663 cases were reported; of these, 335 were encephalitis or meningitis infections, a reaction to the virus that approximately one in 150 people who get the virus will show. Three hundred and two cases were filed for West Nile fever, the most likely symptom of the virus; 26 cases were unspecified. The state of Texas had the most cases, with 104 total. The total mortality rate for 2009 was 32 deaths of the 663 reported serious cases, a 4.5% casualty rate, but only of the severe infections. Approximately 80% of cases have no symptoms, so the total casualty rate would be less than 1% of total infections in the U.S. These and earlier years data are available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.[60]
Dallas County, Texas health officials announced in the second week of August 2012 a death toll of nine so far in the county. County Judge Clay Jenkins declared a public health emergency for the county on August 9, 2012, due to the West Nile virus outbreak in the area.[61][62]

Let me highlight the most salient part of the article for you, since you probably have trouble reading small type: Approximately 80% of cases have NO symptoms, so the TOTAL casualty rate is LESS THAN 1% in the US.

Source: West Nile virus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Setting up WNV as some sort of baby/old-person killer would be about as efficient and effective as counterfeiting $1.00 bills.

I anxiously await your next set of fear-mongering, conspiracy theories and out-and-out fabrications. You make this too easy!

HERE IS THE FACT THAT IS NOT IN YOUR BS WIKIPEDIA:

The 80% that show no symptoms 40% of them will die of kidney failure in 4 to 7 years!

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Posted in News, Centers For Disease Control And Prevention (CDC), Clinical & Pharma, Kidney Failure, Chronic Kidney Disease (CKD), Dialysis


HOUSTON—The West Nile virus is considered an acute threat, causing death or brain-related disability in a tiny fraction of cases, but a new Houston study suggests it routinely can result in serious, lasting kidney damage.

Baylor College of Medicine researchers studying local people in years after they were infected with the mosquito-borne infection found four in 10 had varying stages of chronic kidney disease (CKD) related to the virus. The kidney disease is potentially fatal.

"This demonstrates that everybody, not just the elderly and the immune-compromised, needs to take precautions against mosquitoes," said Kristy Murray, a professor of tropical medicine at Baylor College of Medicine and the study's senior author. "Healthy people appear to be quite at risk of kidney disease from bites, too."

Murray said she was very surprised by the study findings—that West Nile-related kidney disease is occurring, that it's common and that it's even very likely to affect infected people who never had symptoms. She focused on kidney disease after learning about a few study participants' unexpected development of kidney problems.


Because of the study, published online in the journal PLoS, the team is advising doctors to screen patients with any history of West Nile infection for kidney disease and those with unexplained kidney disease for the virus, Murray said. She estimated that roughly 45,000 Houston-area people have been infected with the virus, many of whom don't know it.



http://www.renalbusiness.com/news/2012/08/west-nile-leads-to-kidney-failure.aspx

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So in other words, it's a virus.

Thanks for the news flash.

Edit: So, are you new to the whole West Nile Virus thing? Didn't pay attention in 2003?

I've run large scale WNV management (that's right...management, not eradication) programs in the past. Are you just so sad and bored that you're looking for some justification as to why life is bad? The virus has been existent for at thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years +. It's in recorded history. And it can easily travel around the world in one mosquito that flew into an airplane thinking someone's socks were a juicy blood meal. Do you think that emerald ash borers and gypsy moth are also some elaborate plot by the gov't too? Perhaps quagga mussels or asian carp?

Get a grip dude.

[toxigal]

Viral Encephalitis causes a fever at your head one of the symptoms from West Nile Virus.

as opposed to a fever in your toe?

[QUOTE]The testing requires a spinal tap. Takes two weeks for the results. [/QHOTE]

not true. the test can be done on serum. it can take up to 2 weeks for results, but that depends on the lab and how busy they are at any given time. the TAT for a lot of the tests performed at the lab i work for is 2 weeks, but we usually get results out much faster than that.

Plus they have to test you twice before the CDC counts you as a statistic with WN Virus.

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no, they have to do a screening test and a confirmation test. This is not the same as "testing someone twice". it is two tests on one specimen.

80% show no symptoms but die of kidney disease many years later.

The 80% that show no symptoms 40% of them will die of kidney failure in 4 to 7 years!

wow, you really have reading comprehension problems. Here is what the article you posted said:

"Baylor College of Medicine researchers studying local people in years after they were infected with the mosquito-borne infection found four in 10 had varying stages of chronic kidney disease (CKD) related to the virus. The kidney disease is potentially fatal."

no where does it state that 40% of people who had no symptoms later die of kidney disease!

if you go and read the actual scientific paper (which is open access and available (online) this is what you would learn.

PLoS ONE: Prevalence of Chronic Kidney Disease and Progression of Disease Over Time among Patients Enrolled in the Houston West Nile Virus Cohort

"Approximately one-half of the patients presented with an initial WNV diagnosis of acute Neuroinvasive WNV disease (meningitis and/or encephalitis). Mild (febrile) and asymptomatic infection comprised the other half of the population."

so, not sure where you got the 40% of the people who had no symptoms when it clearly states that over half of the cohort had symptoms (either acute neuroinvasive or mild).

"Based on our observational findings, it is evident that more extensive research is needed to understand the exact association between WNV and the development of CKD. "

"Traditional risk factors, such as diabetes, hypertension, obesity, and family history of CKD, were not found to be significantly associated with CKD among this population. However, there was an association with Neuroinvasive WNV infection at initial presentation. In light of our findings, we cannot rule out the influence of WNV with declining renal functioning. Physicians should monitor the kidney health of patients with a history of WNV infection."

"cannot rule out" does not mean "the virus causes deadly kidney disease".