Supreme Court to Rule on Obamacare Today

**Zep** · 06-28-2012, 09:20 AM

I'm guessing it goes down 5-4 but who knows I guess.

Anyone have any bets on what they've decided?

**Politburo** · 06-28-2012, 10:12 AM

Mandate upheld per @SCOTUSblog..

**Marc** · 06-28-2012, 10:12 AM

Will SCOTUS reveal itself to be Ms. Palin's much ballyhooed "death panel"?

**Marc** · 06-28-2012, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Politburo

Mandate upheld per @SCOTUSblog..

Originally Posted by Marc

Will SCOTUS reveal itself to be Ms. Palin's much ballyhooed "death panel"?

Or not. Sounds like CNN's reporting that they are getting conflicting reports from inside.

**Politburo** · 06-28-2012, 10:14 AM

Mandate struck down per cnn.com... ETA: corrected to say whole act upheld

**Politburo** · 06-28-2012, 10:16 AM

Upheld per MSNBC.. ETA now saying "may be upheld"

**Marc** · 06-28-2012, 10:16 AM

CNN TV is reporting that the entire ACA is upheld by way of congress tax provisions, not commerce clause.

**Politburo** · 06-28-2012, 10:17 AM

@SCOTUSblog saying Roberts was the 5th vote to uphold.

**Marc** · 06-28-2012, 10:17 AM

LOL, now they are saying partly upheld, partly struck down. This is too funny. I'm thinking they should STFU, read the inch and half thick decision and then report!

**geoffrobinson** · 06-28-2012, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Marc

CNN TV is reporting that the entire ACA is upheld by way of congress tax provisions, not commerce clause.

Well the good news for conservatives is that, based on the DREAM Act, we can just refuse to enforce the thing once a Republican becomes President.

**BarryG** · 06-28-2012, 10:19 AM

Looks like they consider the mandate a tax: http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012...e-court-rules/

**FKD19124** · 06-28-2012, 10:19 AM

suprememe court just upheld it.

**Reds** · 06-28-2012, 10:19 AM

SCOTUSblog gives the impression it's 5-4 in favor of the mandate, with Roberts' being the saving vote. Interesting.

**NickTheCage** · 06-28-2012, 10:21 AM

SCOTUS just gave our federal government unlimited power. Sweet.

**Zep** · 06-28-2012, 10:22 AM

Gotta say I'm shocked at that one.

**Politburo** · 06-28-2012, 10:24 AM

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions...11-393c3a2.pdf

I believe this is the decision but site is jammed..

**FKD19124** · 06-28-2012, 10:25 AM

so the question is....what is the federal government going to force you to buy next???

**geoffrobinson** · 06-28-2012, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

SCOTUS just gave our federal government unlimited power. Sweet.

Yes, limited government died today (as long as they frame every coercion as a tax).

I hereby propose putting a $500,000 tax on every abortion. Hey, I'm not banning abortions. I'm just using the taxing power. Also, a $10 million tax on gay marriages.

**Politburo** · 06-28-2012, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by FKD19124

so the question is....what is the federal government going to force you to buy next???

Broccoli, duh.

**Politburo** · 06-28-2012, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

SCOTUS just gave our federal government unlimited power. Sweet.

Originally Posted by geoffrobinson

Yes, limited government died today (as long as they frame every coercion as a tax).

I hereby propose putting a $500,000 tax on every abortion. Hey, I'm not banning abortions. I'm just using the taxing power. Also, a $10 million tax on gay marriages.

Love the smell of hyperbole in the morning..

Haven't been able to get to the decision yet but I would think that the Court would strike down a tax that is clearly structured to be a ban when such a ban would otherwise be unconstitutional. Furthermore the taxing power used in ACA is not being used in that manner so it seems to be a stretch to say that this decision would enable what you describe (again, haven't been able to get to the actual decision, this is obviously speculation)