Romney..didn't work ...never worked...

**Gio7707** · 06-20-2012, 02:42 PM

Obama

**toxigal** · 06-20-2012, 04:13 PM

is your subject line an example of selective editing to change the message?

**NickTheCage** · 06-20-2012, 04:30 PM

Gio; why won't Obama run ads on his record?

**Naveen** · 06-20-2012, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

why won't Obama run ads on his record?

To be fair, neither will Romney. He's not going to talk about Massachusetts because his signature achievement was a piece of healthcare legislation the conservatives on the Supreme Court are about to overturn. And there isn't anything else in his record for him to talk about, because the state's economy got worse under him.

No, he'll just criticize Obama...and then vice-versa, because that's all they can do at this point.

**Gio7707** · 06-21-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Naveen

To be fair, neither will Romney. He's not going to talk about Massachusetts because his signature achievement was a piece of healthcare legislation the conservatives on the Supreme Court are about to overturn. And there isn't anything else in his record for him to talk about, because the state's economy got worse under him.

No, he'll just criticize Obama...and then vice-versa, because that's all they can do at this point.

well said ..thank you

**Politburo** · 06-21-2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

Gio; why won't Obama run ads on his record?

He is:

President Barack Obama's reelection campaign on Thursday put out another ad, this one a positive spot.

The ad, called "First Law," touts the fact that the first legislation Obama signed into law was the Lily Ledbetter Act, which made it easier for women to sue employers for pay discrimination.

Obama Campaign Ad Promotes His Record On Women's Rights

Now move those goalposts.

**NickTheCage** · 06-21-2012, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Naveen

To be fair, neither will Romney. He's not going to talk about Massachusetts because his signature achievement was a piece of healthcare legislation the conservatives on the Supreme Court are about to overturn. And there isn't anything else in his record for him to talk about, because the state's economy got worse under him.

No, he'll just criticize Obama...and then vice-versa, because that's all they can do at this point.

So why vote for the 'lesser of two evils'?

We be fracked as a nation if out of 300M+ people we have these 2 wooded twins running against each other

**NickTheCage** · 06-21-2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Politburo

He is:

Obama Campaign Ad Promotes His Record On Women's Rights

Now move those goalposts.

Where are the ads on health care, stimulus, increased govt regulation, etc, etc .. aren't those his signature pieces of legislation?

I would think he was proud of those accomplishments, no?

**Zep** · 06-21-2012, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

Where are the ads on health care, stimulus, increased govt regulation, etc, etc .. aren't those his signature pieces of legislation?

I would think he was proud of those accomplishments, no?

I mean, I know you're being disingenuous since you feel that those programs were mistakes, but I'll indulge you. The reason is because those are wedge issues. It's stupid, it's like asking "why isn't he running ads on how <candidate X> is pro-choice/life??? Huh? Why isn't he?" C'mon Nick, try to debate honestly, I think you can.

**Naveen** · 06-21-2012, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Politburo

Obama Campaign Ad Promotes His Record On Women's Rights

Well that's good. Nice concrete ad about an achievement that helps Americans. They need more of the same, at the least.

**Politburo** · 06-21-2012, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

the predicted moving of the goalposts

The words you're looking for are 'my mistake'.

ETA: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1506105.html

**CHIOSSO** · 06-21-2012, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

So why vote for the 'lesser of two evils'?

We be fracked as a nation if out of 300M+ people we have these 2 wooded twins running against each other

voting for the lesser of two evils' is still voting for evil.

**NickTheCage** · 06-21-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Politburo

The words you're looking for are 'my mistake'.

ETA: Obama Ads Focus On Economy, Auto Industry

I'm getting board ..

How difficult is it to run an ad abt 'saving' GM and Chrysler in small areas of Ohio, Michigan, etc. You live in Pa, a fairly important state that could swing in either direction .. have you seen or heard any ads touting his signature pieces of legislation, his EPA regulation of coal, oil, Finance reform & bank regulation, job 'creation' etc, etc, etc .. I may be wrong but I haven't heard one

Where are the ads that champion his two signature pieces of legislation American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 & Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?

Wouldn't care if his ads called it Health care reform, stimulus, etc ..

**Politburo** · 06-21-2012, 10:34 AM

First it was Obama isn't running any ads on his record...
Then it was he wasn't running ads on specific parts of his record...
Now it's he isn't running positive ads in PA... (I personally don't recall seeing any Obama ads, positive or negative)

How boarding.

**NickTheCage** · 06-22-2012, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Politburo

First it was Obama isn't running any ads on his record...
Then it was he wasn't running ads on specific parts of his record...
Now it's he isn't running positive ads in PA... (I personally don't recall seeing any Obama ads, positive or negative)

How boarding.

This is how a conversation evolves on a discussion board.

Per his one ads .. what happens if they are lies like his saving the auto industry?

Why hasn't he spoken abt specific signature policies as I stated above?

**Marquis** · 06-22-2012, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

I'm getting board ..

How difficult is it to run an ad abt 'saving' GM and Chrysler in small areas of Ohio, Michigan, etc. You live in Pa, a fairly important state that could swing in either direction .. have you seen or heard any ads touting his signature pieces of legislation, his EPA regulation of coal, oil, Finance reform & bank regulation, job 'creation' etc, etc, etc .. I may be wrong but I haven't heard one

Where are the ads that champion his two signature pieces of legislation American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 & Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?

Wouldn't care if his ads called it Health care reform, stimulus, etc ..

I will vote for Romney now. Sure, I know about Obama's accomplishments, but if he's not going to spend money on commercials about them, I'll just go with the other guy.

**NickTheCage** · 06-22-2012, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by Marquis

I will vote for Romney now. Sure, I know about Obama's accomplishments, but if he's not going to spend money on commercials about them, I'll just go with the other guy.

What did he accomplish?

**Zep** · 06-22-2012, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by NickTheCage

What did he accomplish?

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center

Read for yourself. I'm sure some of the things listed as "accomplishments" should not really be (and my guess is you'll be more than happy to c&p them here), but it's not like they're hard to find Nick.

**NickTheCage** · 06-22-2012, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Zep

Obama Administration’s Achievements (Thus Far) » Obama's Achievements Center

Read for yourself. I'm sure some of the things listed as "accomplishments" should not really be (and my guess is you'll be more than happy to c&p them here), but it's not like they're hard to find Nick.

Decent amt of BS in your link from the few I opened; from GDP #'s that ended up being revised downward, czars and the wage controls on bailed out companies, etc

Next time please try explaining what you feel his accomplishments are