Congress Just Voted 513-0 Against Obama's Budget

[NickTheCage]

House rejected 414-0 in March

Obama budget defeated 99-0 in Senate - Washington Times



As much as I hate most of DC sure is fun watching this failure lose it and serve hoagies

[seand]

It wasn't an actual document. It was piece of theater from the Republicans.

"Party A puts up phoney non legally binding document for misleading headlines, nobody votes for it" is how it should read.

[NickTheCage]

It wasn't an actual document. It was piece of theater from the Republicans.

"Party A puts up phoney non legally binding document for misleading headlines, nobody votes for it" is how it should read.

Are you really this foolish or do you just blindly spit out MSNBC talking points and blame everything on the GOP?

The Marxicrats run the Senate!

[Four Provinces]

It's a fact that Jeff Sessions, a republican submitted the bill. Now the republiucans can arguably say both a. "Obama's" budget failed and b. The Democrats have yet to submit a budget! This is just ****ing precious, too cute by half.

While Rome burns.......

[five apples]

Marxicrats

This is a new one to me. Can we expect Hiltercrats next, Stalincrats and etc? Is there any other generally hated political theology we could attach to this? I feel like there are so many great possibilities to really lower the bar and simplify your hate.

[OffenseTaken]

Are you really this foolish or do you just blindly spit out MSNBC talking points and blame everything on the GOP?

Or are you, the Rev. Moon, and Rachel Maddow the only three ****ing people who actually read the Washington Times?

[NickTheCage]

Why hasn't Reid submitted an actual budget for vote?

When was the last time they did so?

When was the last time they passed a budget in the senate?

[Politburo]

Why hasn't Reid submitted an actual budget for vote?

Spending bills must originate in the House (though there are parliamentary tricks to get around this), and I don't think the House has passed a budget that the majority would agree with. In any case the motivation is obvious, imo, they don't want to go on record in an election year.

The current budget was passed in November and December 2011 (2-3 months late).

[NickTheCage]

Spending bills must originate in the House (though there are parliamentary tricks to get around this), and I don't think the House has passed a budget that the majority would agree with. In any case the motivation is obvious, imo, they don't want to go on record in an election year.

The current budget was passed in November and December 2011 (2-3 months late).

We have an actual budget?

[BarryG]

We have an actual budget?

There hasn't been a real budget passed since like 2008 I thought. You can't solely blame the Democrats or "Marxocrats" or whatever though. Obama and Reid shoulder much of the blame because of their poor leadership, but the GOP has had an adamant obstructionist agenda that prevents any productive negotiation from occurring. Both parties are responsible for the dysfunction in Washington.

[Politburo]

We have an actual budget?

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/approp/app12.html

Lines 1, 2, and 8 make up the current budget. I'm not sure what semantic game you're trying to play.. Does it have to be passed in one bill to be an "actual" budget?

[toxigal]

There hasn't been a real budget passed since like 2008 I thought. You can't solely blame the Democrats or "Marxocrats" or whatever though. Obama and Reid shoulder much of the blame because of their poor leadership, but the GOP has had an adamant obstructionist agenda that prevents any productive negotiation from occurring. Both parties are responsible for the dysfunction in Washington.

what's this then?
Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

[gren]

Status of Appropriations Legislation for Fiscal Year 2012 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Lines 1, 2, and 8 make up the current budget. I'm not sure what semantic game you're trying to play.. Does it have to be passed in one bill to be an "actual" budget?

what's this then?
Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Those are both appropriations and not budgets. The president releases a budget. Congress adopts budget resolutions. Congress votes on appropriations bills (what you both linked to, and what actually authorizes agencies to spend money). So because of political turmoil we haven't been adopting budgets (which set limits of sorts on appropriations) for a while. Even more, we haven't been passing appropriations bills out of committees but have been doing consolidated appropriations acts. And of course, we haven't been authorizing many multi-year programs (transportation) but have been passing continuing resolution for authorization which has sometimes decreased the authorization level.

Now, I am slightly annoyed that Congress isn't functioning well enough to follow it's own processes. I'm not sure why someone like Nick who doesn't like the processes of Congress which are paid for by our stolen tax dollars cares about the picayune matters of budget resolutions when the government is perpetrating theft on a massive scale.

[Politburo]

Budget resolutions were invented in 1974. Would you (or Nick) say that we had "no budget" from 1787-1974?

As I indicated earlier, this just seems to be semantics..

[Naveen]

There hasn't been a real budget passed since like 2008 I thought. You can't solely blame the Democrats or "Marxocrats" or whatever though. Obama and Reid shoulder much of the blame because of their poor leadership, but the GOP has had an adamant obstructionist agenda that prevents any productive negotiation from occurring. Both parties are responsible for the dysfunction in Washington.

Obama and Reid could have done better. But I don't put much blame on them.

Imagine a couple where one person had a severe personality disorder, and the other person made some mistakes while trying to deal with that problem and still do all the other things that life required. That's the nature of the two parties in Washington (and to a lesser extent in many state capitals too).

[BarryG]

Obama and Reid could have done better. But I don't put much blame on them.

Imagine a couple where one person had a severe personality disorder, and the other person made some mistakes while trying to deal with that problem and still do all the other things that life required. That's the nature of the two parties in Washington (and to a lesser extent in many state capitals too).

Yea but the Dems keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Yes it is hard to work with this congress but the reality is that Obama is not up to the challenge. A stronger leader would be.

[Naveen]

Yes it is hard to work with this congress...

I think that's a major understatement.

But yes, the Democrats have had some notable unforced errors.

[seand]

Yea but the Dems keep making the same mistakes over and over again. Yes it is hard to work with this congress but the reality is that Obama is not up to the challenge. A stronger leader would be.

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