Is Obama hurting himself with Negative Campaigning?

**StatesRights** · 08-12-2012, 10:15 PM

I am curious if other people feel a little (or more ) dissapointment that Obama has gone so negative with his re-election campaign, or endorced PAC's to do so.
Is it a sign that maybe he is just the same as all the others, and begs us wonder where is the hope and change in a leader that we so desperately wanted?

**Naveen** · 08-13-2012, 01:27 PM

Fight fire, with fire. I'm glad he's doing it.

**Giavella Water** · 08-13-2012, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by StatesRights

I am curious if other people feel a little (or more ) dissapointment that Obama has gone so negative with his re-election campaign, or endorced PAC's to do so.
Is it a sign that maybe he is just the same as all the others, and begs us wonder where is the hope and change in a leader that we so desperately wanted?

Anyone with an ounce of sense would have been disappointed with Obama when he made the announcement to run in the first place.

**MariusPontmercy** · 08-13-2012, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Naveen

Fight fire, with fire. I'm glad he's doing it.

No. I'd really like to see him intelligently defend his own positions and lay out, point by point, what he has done for the country. Reverting to smear tactics just makes me not trust his track record. His record should be his strongest case, which is why he needs to be running on that. If he's not, then it just makes me think he isn't confident his own record is good enough to run on for reelection. Same goes for Romney. The less substance either of them bring to the table, the more wary I am of the both of them.

**2happy4u** · 08-13-2012, 10:36 PM

The only thing hurting Obama is his lack of good economic policies, and his stance on social justice before liberty. I guess in all of his days in college no one ever told him America is not a place it's a idea.

**hkp** · 08-13-2012, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by 2happy4u

i guess in all of his days in college no one ever told him america is not a place it's a idea.

lol.

**PASnow** · 08-13-2012, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by 2happy4u

The only thing hurting Obama is his lack of good economic policies, and his stance on social justice before liberty. I guess in all of his days in college no one ever told him America is not a place it's a idea.

Really?? Cause it comes up on google maps?! Just like Buffalo, Albuquerque or Russia. I once had an idea about how it'd be cool to have a microfreezer, opposite of a microwave. Which would freeze items or chill them within minutes. I google mapped that, it didn't come up.

**PASnow** · 08-13-2012, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Naveen

Fight fire, with fire. I'm glad he's doing it.

Nahh I disagree with this. Part of the reason I voted for Obama and wanted him as Prez was the change part. Otherwise we might have well have had Hilary or Joe Biden in office. Not sh@t changed, sorry, just being brutally honest. It's the same old horsesh!t.

**Politburo** · 08-14-2012, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by PASnow

Nahh I disagree with this. Part of the reason I voted for Obama and wanted him as Prez was the change part.

Obama ran many negative ads in 2008, so I don't really understand how you thought an end to negative ads was what he meant by 'change'. Obama did make statements regarding 'changing the tone in Washington', but the first thing the GOP did was make a one-term Obama presidency their #1 goal, then there was birtherism, 'you lie', etc. It's not clear to me how the fault can be laid on Obama for the tone not changing.

**FKD19124** · 08-14-2012, 11:49 AM

I think it will hurt him eventually. Negative campaigns, at least in his case, shows he cannot run on his record because its terrible.Not to mention, he uses peoples emotions
to win them over by saying things that make their ears tingle to get their votes knowing he can't deliver.

Originally Posted by StatesRights

I am curious if other people feel a little (or more ) dissapointment that Obama has gone so negative with his re-election campaign, or endorced PAC's to do so.
Is it a sign that maybe he is just the same as all the others, and begs us wonder where is the hope and change in a leader that we so desperately wanted?

**2happy4u** · 08-14-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by PASnow

Really?? Cause it comes up on google maps?! Just like Buffalo, Albuquerque or Russia. I once had an idea about how it'd be cool to have a microfreezer, opposite of a microwave. Which would freeze items or chill them within minutes. I google mapped that, it didn't come up.

Sounds like you want to the same type of school as your PREZ. Joke about it till you really think about. What country did we follow? NONE.... It was a total IDEA and a experiment. You voted for a slogan "Hope & Change".... Nothing real. and now you will vote for another slogan, FORWARD ... Will you be moving that Hope & Change----- Forward? LOL

**five apples** · 08-14-2012, 06:48 PM

Negative adds work. People bitch about them, but they work so they are going to run them. Until polling shows differently than it will not change. Romney used them very effectively in the nomination process for instance and I am sure will heap them on as well. This is going to be really ugly on tv. Being in a swing state, we will get to see all of it.

**Jaysmom** · 08-14-2012, 08:13 PM

If Bush was elected 2 terms, there's hope Obama will be too.

**Jerry19127** · 08-15-2012, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by PASnow

Nahh I disagree with this. Part of the reason I voted for Obama and wanted him as Prez was the change part. Otherwise we might have well have had Hilary or Joe Biden in office. Not sh@t changed, sorry, just being brutally honest. It's the same old horsesh!t.

If Hilary were President, I don't think we'd be in this same predicament. She had experience and guidance and often reflected on opposing ideologies. While not a fan of her, she would have been much better than the inexperienced flop that is President now. If only he had been poperly vetted in 08, he would never have been elected. But what do you expect from people that have critical thinking skills as short as their cell phone ringtones? Nothing. That's why more than 50% of them are unemployed.

**FKD19124** · 08-15-2012, 07:17 AM

the irony is, this clown in the whitehouse had the nerve to talk about negative campaigns.

**Politburo** · 08-15-2012, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Jerry19127

If Hilary were President, I don't think we'd be in this same predicament. She had experience and guidance and often reflected on opposing ideologies. While not a fan of her, she would have been much better than the inexperienced flop that is President now. If only he had been poperly vetted in 08, he would never have been elected. But what do you expect from people that have critical thinking skills as short as their cell phone ringtones? Nothing. That's why more than 50% of them are unemployed.

Hello, racist.

**Templeton** · 08-15-2012, 12:48 PM

To all those who are against Obama's negative campaigning, are you equally against Romney's false/negative campaigning? Or can you only see it if the other side does it?

**FKD19124** · 08-15-2012, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Templeton

To all those who are against Obama's negative campaigning, are you equally against Romney's false/negative campaigning? Or can you only see it if the other side does it?

negative how?

**Politburo** · 08-15-2012, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by FKD19124

negative how?

LOL, that answers that question..

**Zep** · 08-15-2012, 01:26 PM

Personally I'm not a fan of negative campaigning in any form. I think it's disappointing that Obama and his team are opting to distract the voting public with things like Bain capital/tax returns/when did Ryan dump his shares/etc.

On the other hand IIRC negative campaigning typically works unfortunately, so I suppose it's par for the course.