Bye, bye steve jobs

**MTEMPLE** · 08-24-2011, 06:54 PM

Apple CEO Steve Jobs resigns - MarketWatch

**Mr Morley** · 08-24-2011, 07:44 PM

Unsurprising. There really isn't long-term survival rate for pancreatic cancer.

I was hoping that he would make it through the next big announcement in September. It will be interesting to see if he comes back for that or lets someone else take over.

**MTEMPLE** · 08-24-2011, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Morley

Unsurprising. There really isn't long-term survival rate for pancreatic cancer.

I was hoping that he would make it through the next big announcement in September. It will be interesting to see if he comes back for that or lets someone else take over.

At this point I think his health is beating his ego. I'm guessing the next time he'll makes a major public appearance will be for the release of his biography.

Simon & Schuster to Update Steve Jobs Biography, Will Release It On Time - Bloomberg

**mixiboi** · 08-24-2011, 10:50 PM

I expect to see him at the iPhone 5 announcement.

But his day to day running of Apple are over, he'll still be around the campus till the day he can't.

**Mr Morley** · 08-24-2011, 11:46 PM

As an article I just read reminded me, he's been on medical leave most of the year and has more or less appointed his heir apparent.

On the plus side, he finally gets to build the house he's been trying to for 25 years!

**stock** · 08-24-2011, 11:46 PM

It's a shame, when he dies, Apple will start to die...

**mixiboi** · 08-25-2011, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by stock

It's a shame, when he dies, Apple will start to die...

Ony if they make stupid decision, I think Steve Job has filled Apple with enough brilliant people that know how to run the company.

When they(Apple) fired him last time it was filled with a lot of people who almost killed Apple till NeXT bought Apple(Yes, yes, Apple bought them, but Steve Job took back over and NeXT became OS X.)

**Mr Morley** · 08-25-2011, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by mixiboi

When they(Apple) fired him last time it was filled with a lot of people who almost killed Apple till NeXT bought Apple(Yes, yes, Apple bought them, but Steve Job took back over and NeXT became OS X.)

Jobs was run out last time; this time he knew he was leaving and has been planning accordingly.

Also, the last time, he took all the best and the brightest with him. Unless he's got an old-fashioned, Chinese imperial style funeral planned, that's not happening this time around.

**Mr Morley** · 08-25-2011, 02:43 AM

Love that shot

**OldMama** · 08-25-2011, 06:58 AM

FYI, the kind of pancreatic cancer Steve Jobs has is called a neuroendocrine tumor. It is not the classic pancreatic cancer which is adenocarcinoma and is the one with the worst survival rate of any cancer. Neuroendocrine tumors account for less than 10% of PC diagnoses and usually have a far, far better survival rate. Steve Jobs got a pretty bad break with his. Unfortunately, I was rapidly educated in pancreatic cancer several years ago.

**Mr Morley** · 08-25-2011, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by OldMama

FYI, the kind of pancreatic cancer Steve Jobs has is called a neuroendocrine tumor. It is not the classic pancreatic cancer which is adenocarcinoma and is the one with the worst survival rate of any cancer. Neuroendocrine tumors account for less than 10% of PC diagnoses and usually have a far, far better survival rate. Steve Jobs got a pretty bad break with his. Unfortunately, I was rapidly educated in pancreatic cancer several years ago.

That would probably explain how he's lived so long.

He had a radical procedure which removed his pancreas and the upper part of his stomach. He's also (according to reports) had a liver transplant, but I'm not clear on how that plays into the pancreatic cancer.

**lemko** · 08-25-2011, 10:37 AM

Steve Jobs was also very fortunate to have teamed up with Steve Wozniak. Sometimes running into the right person at the right time can make all the difference.

**Mr Morley** · 08-25-2011, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by lemko

Steve Jobs was also very fortunate to have teamed up with Steve Wozniak. Sometimes running into the right person at the right time can make all the difference.

I'd put it the other way round; Woz was/is a genius, and would have done amazing things regardless, but without Jobs there's a good chance the world would never have seen them; the early history of home computing is full of people as smart as Woz who you've never heard of.

Jobs is (among many things) a marketing genius, so if it hadn't been computers, he would have found something else, some other product to sell.

**OldMama** · 08-25-2011, 01:20 PM

Yes Jobs had surgery called a Whipple. It's a nasty procedure- removal of part or all of the pancreas, the duodenum, the gallbladder, and often part of the stomach. Frequently for the neuroendocrine cases, this is all it takes. Even when it progresses to the liver, as Jobs' cancer did, it can be treated, including with liver transplant. Liver transplants are not done for the other PC.

The Whipple is also done for patients with the adenocarcinoma PC IF they are caught in time for it. Only around 10% are caught "in time." Even among those 10%, most die within two years, even with radiation and chemo. My husband lived 11 months after the Whipple. It's a vicious disease.

In the pancreatic cancer world, people who get the type Jobs has are considered lucky. I guess his luck has run out. Sad; he's still young.

**loveisnoise** · 08-28-2011, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by lemko

Steve Jobs was also very fortunate to have teamed up with Steve Wozniak. Sometimes running into the right person at the right time can make all the difference.

It takes a company, not a person. A lot of people don't even realize that there was a third owner of Apple that truly held it all together at its most crucial moments in the beginning.

**supersupper** · 08-28-2011, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by loveisnoise

It takes a company, not a person. A lot of people don't even realize that there was a third owner of Apple that truly held it all together at its most crucial moments in the beginning.

HA!. He, the Pete Best of the digital age. Well, not exactly really, he did leave of his own volition if you believe the story.

**loveisnoise** · 08-28-2011, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by supersupper

HA!. He, the Pete Best of the digital age. Well, not exactly really, he did leave of his own volition if you believe the story.

Some of apple's past is hard to translate since they were so tightly guarded-but I believe that he left on his own. Now... I'm sure that Steve's attitude probably helped him out the door! hahahaha

Steve Jobbs is the guy who created our modern digital world. No doubt about it. I just think that Woz and a few others sometimes get lost in Steve's shadow. Many of them prefer it that way due to the nature of the computer business. He is amazing, though.