Chestnut Hill under siege YET AGAIN!

[Templeton]

The money is in the banana stand.

+ 2 for Arrested Development reference

[Mt. Airy Brewer]

bring the frogurt down to mt. airy!

but not within 750 feet of the trolley car.

or, just to be safe, within 750 feet of any other property/business ken weinstein owns.

http://www.philadelphiaspeaks.com/fo...s-opening.html

Isn't that every commercial property in Mt. Airy?

[ArcticSplash]

When it comes to opening anything that remotely resembles a business, I would call the neighborhood Chestnut Hell.

[uly55es1]

Right.

By the way, at the risk of hijacking my own thread, for those who think that $18.14 is too much to pay for a 2-egg breakfast...

...there's a new 24/7 diner that has opened just a 7 minute drive from Trolley Car that's a great alternative.

Andy’s Diner has just opened nearby in Cheltenham at Cedarbrook Plaza. Think New Jersey style Greek mega-diner with a very large menu. The joint is brand spanking new and it’s ginormous. Trolley Car could fit inside of it several times over. The prices are very inexpensive and the food is very comparable in quality to Trolley Car’s although at Andy’s you’ll be seated quickly in new, immaculate booths, you’ll get friendly, attentive service, and your checks will be half the price.

They have a $1.99 weekday breakfast special : 2 eggs any style, home fries and toast (it’s $2.95 on weekends). There are 10 different breakfast specials offered daily.

They also have an all-you-can-eat breakfast buffet: $10.95 for adults; $5.95 for kids under 10; and it is free for children 3 years old or under. The buffet includes a made-to-order omelet station, waffles, pancakes, French toast, bacon, sausage, scrapple, danish, bagels, biscuits, fresh fruit, coffee and your choice of a cold beverage.

I ate there a couple weeks ago. The place is clean. Portions were huge. I saw that they had accommodated a group of maybe 40 people that they seated together at a long table and they had room to accommodate plenty more.

Mount Airy Breakfast and Lunch (thanks Toxigal) and, now, Andy’s are my go-to area diners. Mt Airy Breakfast and Lunch has limited hours and is closed Sundays so this place is a great addition whenever you want a decent diner breakfast nearby at a great price or you want a place that can accommodate your large group. In addition to low prices, they give 10% off checks $25 or more. They also have senior discounts and early-bird specials.

Andy's Diner & Pub - Cheltenham

Menu: Andy's Diner & Pub (menu prices and options look the same at Cheltenham location)

Well hell we pass that place to go to the Trolley. We stopped going to that location when it was the Old Country Buffet because we did not like the patrons that frequented the place. Kids running around the steam tables grabbing stuff. People using foul language at the tops of their lungs. It was pretty low class and ghetto so we stopped going in there. We will give this new place a shot later this week to see how it is.

[borntochill]

Well hell we pass that place to go to the Trolley. We stopped going to that location when it was the Old Country Buffet because we did not like the patrons that frequented the place. Kids running around the steam tables grabbing stuff. People using foul language at the tops of their lungs. It was pretty low class and ghetto so we stopped going in there. We will give this new place a shot later this week to see how it is.

We had a good experience at Andy's Diner on a weekend morning. The patrons were well behaved. As far as Trolley Car goes, I can't think of anything more "low class" than charging customers an extra $2 to give them toast with their eggs.

[borntochill]

update! Mt. Airy Breakfast and Lunch is now open Sundays. I've gone twice in the last month...waffle with walnuts and bananas one week and a veggie omelet the other. both delicious! and they are just nice people. i sit at the counter and the entire staff chats with you and with each other. it is great.

Awesome! Mount Airy Breakfast and Lunch has great food, service, prices, and homespun charm.

[MariusPontmercy]

Hey, forget Kingsessing, we're still trying to get ice cream in Cedar Park!

Didn't Milk and Honey start serving ice cream?

[bungee]

Just a quick aside to wonder if anyone else ever wonders why no one writes to the Local admiting they they were wrong after one of tempest in a tea pot apocalypses that are so frequently predicted don't come to pass. Probably because in most cases they stop the "apocalypse" before it can happen. But the dialysis center is the perfect example of one that did come to pass with huge nashing of teeth every step of the way - one person in the Local went so far as to write that a "rural" lane was being ruined by developing the center there. Not a mini-rust belt - a rural lane. Well, now the renovations are complete, attractive, unobtrusive and create no problem for the neighborhood. From all appearances, property values have been enhanced. But not even a one-year-later story in the Local documenting what an asset it is to the community. This particular episode and outcome supports my experience that the three words you rarely, hear in Chestnut Hill are "I was wrong". The problem in Chestnut Hill is that people are frequently wrong, but never in doubt...

[FKD19124]

How dare they!

Expand the equation: Frozen Yogurt + teenagers = crime
OK, THAT makes sense

Yes, indeed, it's a world gone mad. My daughter works in one of these Frozen Yogurt places and oh, the stories she tells: customers asking for unspeakable combinations of toppings, drippings on the floor, people of lower social status (ech!) who don't understand the self-serve concept, TEENAGERS who are bad tippers, people who don't believe in composting(!). She was going to tell me more but I begged her to stop.

Seriously, why does every new idea in CH have to be fought like this (the OP didn't mention the mural, ? Unless the idea is to keep a version of the area frozen in time, a concept that may seem quaint but is ultimately destructive, there's going to be a huge amount of wasted energy spent on resisting inevitable (and in this case, what would seem to be welcome) change.

[annie]

Didn't Milk and Honey start serving ice cream?

That's not in Cedar Park.

[seand]

Didn't Milk and Honey start serving ice cream?

They always have, though they are over the line into Spruce Hill. They are also a "chain", as they have a second location in Sister Cities park and also own the small Philadelphia Java Co. chain of coffee shops. But the owners still are adamantly opposed to what they call "chains", though most people would not think twice about using that word to describe them.

[annie]

They always have, though they are over the line into Spruce Hill. They are also a "chain", as they have a second location in Sister Cities park and also own the small Philadelphia Java Co. chain of coffee shops.

There's a M&H in the city of Baltimore too.

[seand]

There's a M&H in the city of Baltimore too.

Really, thats so shockingly different from say a Subway.

[uly55es1]

We had a good experience at Andy's Diner on a weekend morning. The patrons were well behaved. As far as Trolley Car goes, I can't think of anything more "low class" than charging customers an extra $2 to give them toast with their eggs.

Hubby and I are checking the place out for dinner tonight. Let ya all know how it goes. Thanks again for the review.

[Longboat]

Andy’s Diner has just opened nearby in Cheltenham at Cedarbrook Plaza. Think New Jersey style Greek mega-diner with a very large menu. The joint is brand spanking new and it’s ginormous. Trolley Car could fit inside of it several times over. The prices are very inexpensive and the food is very comparable in quality to Trolley Car’s although at Andy’s you’ll be seated quickly in new, immaculate booths, you’ll get friendly, attentive service, and your checks will be half the price.

Your comparison of Andy's to Trolley Car is on the money. The last time I ate at TC (and it may well be THE last time) the booth seat was in such sad shape that my skinny ass was sore for hours after sitting in it. The whole place is getting ragged around the edges and in need of a makeover/update. Andy's is real and serious competition for TC. It's not just some water ice place. Ken W better wake up.

Also looking forward to the Jyoti opening on the Avenue. Finally, food that actually tastes like something other than cheesy glop.

[Lakey]

First it was an upscale gourmet prepared food establishment selling balsamic-infused Israeli couscous salads and fair trade French Roast coffee to go. Thank goodness vigilant Chestnut Hill neighbors rallied to shut this menace down. Then there was the horror of a dialysis center. Residents gathered up their torches but, unfortunately, were unable to keep physicians and kidney patients at bay. Thank goodness, though, that a water ice establishment that might have spelled the end of civilization as we know it was stopped before it could destroy Germantown Avenue. That was a very close call.

Still, Chestnut Hill residents must never let their guard down. Just when you thought it was safe to head over to Kilian's to pick up a can of matte finish Aegean Mist interior paint, the most evil of all entities was fiendishly planning it's arrival nearby:

Some neighbors fear frozen yogurt shop 'Chill on the Hill' will be crime magnet

Thanks for the review of Andy's. I've been meaning to check it out and just haven't gotten there yet. Haven't been to TC in a long time and don't plan on ever going there again. As for Chestnut Hill and the impending frozen yogurt menace all I can say is



This is completely par for the course in Chestnut Hill.

[Kukla65th]

Unless I wasn't reading the previous postings on this thread closely enough (which is entirely possible), the yogurt shop and all businesses offering cheap products that appeal to teens (though clearly it would attract families as well) is that Chestnut Hill at all times is afraid of "them" that live down the Avenue....you know who I mean, and you know where they live. There are people in CH that are afraid to go below Mt. Airy Avenue, let alone Johnson Street (which is debatably where the neighborhood they're most scared of starts - I go by zip codes, not by Washington Lane). So, out yogurt...now!!!!

[billy ross]

Unless I wasn't reading the previous postings on this thread closely enough (which is entirely possible), the yogurt shop and all businesses offering cheap products that appeal to teens (though clearly it would attract families as well) is that Chestnut Hill at all times is afraid of "them" that live down the Avenue....you know who I mean, and you know where they live. There are people in CH that are afraid to go below Mt. Airy Avenue, let alone Johnson Street (which is debatably where the neighborhood they're most scared of starts - I go by zip codes, not by Washington Lane). So, out yogurt...now!!!!

Don't know whether I agree with this. I get the sense that change is feared, and that creating places for teens to hang out gores someone's ox. This is what is driving people's visceral hostility to this proposal.

I haven't found people of color to be particularly fond of yogurt - ghetto stores have amazingly small dairy sections in general, so I'm not the only one.

[Longboat]

Don't know whether I agree with this. I get the sense that change is feared, and that creating places for teens to hang out gores someone's ox. This is what is driving people's visceral hostility to this proposal.

I haven't found people of color to be particularly fond of yogurt - ghetto stores have amazingly small dairy sections in general, so I'm not the only one.

It isn't about creating a hang out place; that place already exists -- the parking lot. I get the sense that some of the nay-bors are trying to hold the yogurt joint hostage to get something done about kids hanging out in the parking lot. I have no idea if that is really serious problem, but if any or all of the kids hanging out happened to be non-white, I've no doubt that would heighten some folks' perception of the seriousness of the problem.

Your observation about people of color, yogurt and ghetto stores suggests you think that people of color only live in the ghetto and do not like dairy products. That is kinda whacky.

[ShoshTrvls]

They always have, though they are over the line into Spruce Hill. They are also a "chain", as they have a second location in Sister Cities park and also own the small Philadelphia Java Co. chain of coffee shops. But the owners still are adamantly opposed to what they call "chains", though most people would not think twice about using that word to describe them.

As far as I know, there are only 2 Javas, and they dont own he one at 2nd and Christian.