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    ResidentOf19127 is offline Junior Member
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    Default The Parking Authority and Manayunk Police need to switch places

    Anyone who's been in Manayunk for any amount of time knows all too well how over-aggressive the parking authority is. And Anyone who's been in Manayunk for any amount of time knows all too well how lazy and ineffective the local police are when it comes to dealing with public drunkenness. Perhaps they should switch places?

    Tonight, as a sit outside of my home, I'm watching dozens of drunk college kids walking down the hill and headed for the bars. They're carrying cans of cheap beer, pissing wherever they please and yelling about nothing. Where are the police? They're 'patrolling' Main Street in their cruisers, but not once do they stop to question any of these publicly drunk idiots who stagger around town with their underage attitudes.

    If the police want an easier time of reaching their monthly ticket quota, all they need to do is be on Levering Street between Cotton Street and Green Lane at 11:30PM on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights.

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    Get rid of them both!

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    There could be a problem if you stop renting to college students. While I do agree that some of them can be obnoxious jerks, if landlords don't rent to them that could create another variety of undesirable tenants.

    Landlords would have to find tenants other than college students. They are going to let homes sit unrented and not collecting any money. Therefore many will decide to take in Section 8 tenants, and if you want an example of the problems that bunch creates, just look through some of the threads in the Northeast. Crime goes up and you have more to worry about than a bunch of 20 somethings puking or urinating on your sidewalk.

    I am not saying that QOL issues should be ignored. The police SHOULD be doing something. However, I would rather have the lesser of two evils (college students) any day than subsidized renters.

    My theory above is based on the fact that before classes started, there were a lot of homes that had been for rent for months. I don't think there are enough families or non-college tenants around who can afford what some of the homes in Manayunk or Roxborough cost.

    It's much better to have a neighborhood where parking is the worst problem than one where you have an increase in violent crime, which is what is happening in Tacony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Debbie1125 View Post
    There could be a problem if you stop renting to college students. While I do agree that some of them can be obnoxious jerks, if landlords don't rent to them that could create another variety of undesirable tenants.

    Landlords would have to find tenants other than college students. They are going to let homes sit unrented and not collecting any money. Therefore many will decide to take in Section 8 tenants, and if you want an example of the problems that bunch creates, just look through some of the threads in the Northeast. Crime goes up and you have more to worry about than a bunch of 20 somethings puking or urinating on your sidewalk.

    I am not saying that QOL issues should be ignored. The police SHOULD be doing something. However, I would rather have the lesser of two evils (college students) any day than subsidized renters.

    My theory above is based on the fact that before classes started, there were a lot of homes that had been for rent for months. I don't think there are enough families or non-college tenants around who can afford what some of the homes in Manayunk or Roxborough cost.

    It's much better to have a neighborhood where parking is the worst problem than one where you have an increase in violent crime, which is what is happening in Tacony.
    It is ridiculous to assume that cutting down on rentals to college students will result in Section 8 rentals taking over the neighborhood. There are plenty of young professionals and families already renting in Manayunk and there is no reason to believe more of them won't fill the void left by college students. Besides, section 8 vouchers have set rents which are below the market rents in Manayunk. Rents will never get low enough in the neighborhood for landlords to start considering Section 8 and all the pitfalls that come with it. Tacony and Manayunk have very little in common.

    The problem isn't really that college students are living in Manayunk, it's that many if not most of the houses they are living in are in violation of the 3 unrelated adults limit. It's common to see houses with 4-5 students living in them living in a frat house-like environment creating noise and other quality of life issues for neighbors. It doesn't help that each kid has their own car with out of city/state registration and insurance, adding to an already terrible parking shortage, but that's a post for another time.

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    All places need new blood to replace those who move on. The only question is who that new blood will be. It would be silly to assume that the poor wouldn't or don't gravitate towards a vacuum - there are plenty of examples of that happening all around our region.

    The best new blood to get is people who are willing to put down roots and invest of themselves into their new community, whether they be college students or poor people or yuppies. Transients of any age or class can be negative, especially if their numbers are overwhelming.

    Permit parking is a thumb on the scales helping out legal residents who've set down roots. Permit parking punishes transients. I support permit parking, and I think it should be expanded by reserving choice spaces in Philly for Philly permit holders. At some point the people who pay the freight should get more benefit from the system than the shirkers.

    Quote Originally Posted by the mule View Post
    It is ridiculous to assume that cutting down on rentals to college students will result in Section 8 rentals taking over the neighborhood. There are plenty of young professionals and families already renting in Manayunk and there is no reason to believe more of them won't fill the void left by college students. Besides, section 8 vouchers have set rents which are below the market rents in Manayunk. Rents will never get low enough in the neighborhood for landlords to start considering Section 8 and all the pitfalls that come with it. Tacony and Manayunk have very little in common.

    The problem isn't really that college students are living in Manayunk, it's that many if not most of the houses they are living in are in violation of the 3 unrelated adults limit. It's common to see houses with 4-5 students living in them living in a frat house-like environment creating noise and other quality of life issues for neighbors. It doesn't help that each kid has their own car with out of city/state registration and insurance, adding to an already terrible parking shortage, but that's a post for another time.
    Last edited by billy ross; 10-13-2012 at 02:39 PM.

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    This funny thread because anytime I see manayunk I see trashy locals sitting on porches drinking cheap beer! One better than other because on stoop rather than sidewalk?!?! I think equally not sexy!!! hohohohohohohoho!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentOf19127 View Post
    Anyone who's been in Manayunk for any amount of time knows all too well how over-aggressive the parking authority is. And Anyone who's been in Manayunk for any amount of time knows all too well how lazy and ineffective the local police are when it comes to dealing with public drunkenness. Perhaps they should switch places?

    Tonight, as a sit outside of my home, I'm watching dozens of drunk college kids walking down the hill and headed for the bars. They're carrying cans of cheap beer, pissing wherever they please and yelling about nothing. Where are the police? They're 'patrolling' Main Street in their cruisers, but not once do they stop to question any of these publicly drunk idiots who stagger around town with their underage attitudes.

    If the police want an easier time of reaching their monthly ticket quota, all they need to do is be on Levering Street between Cotton Street and Green Lane at 11:30PM on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights.

 

 

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