Anyone hear about this? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sp...r-mystery.html
I just heard about it today on the radio.
Yeah, the short version of the story:
The DA who oversaw the 1998 investigation in which two detectives secretly overheard Sandusky admit to a mother he had touched her son—resulting in no charges filed—has been missing for six years:
"A member of law enforcement who was in the room with Gricar said the DA was told about the report, and had two police officers hide in the mother's home while Sandusky came to her house to talk about what happened. The meeting, according to the source, was Sandusky's idea. ‘That mother said to the police, ‘He's coming over to explain what happened to me,'' the source said. ‘Ray and the detectives decided that they would go to the house to find out what was going on—to hear what he had to say.' A few days later, Gricar got a report back from police. ‘Ray said ‘I'll be in touch,' and he called the chief or supervisors for those detectives. I don't know what he said, but I know that no investigation or charges were pursued from that point on,' the source said. By June 2, the report was labeled 'unfounded' by Penn State police, and the case was closed. The Penn State police officer who led that investigation, Ron Schreffler, is now retired. When approached in March, Schreffler said he couldn't comment and asked a reporter, ‘How did you see that report?'"
Paterno just release a statement
Paterno issues statement on firing
Now he's outside of his house with his wife, both very emotional, the local media on him like vultures..."I am disappointed with the Board of Trustees' decision, but I have to accept it.
A tragedy occurred, and we all have to have patience to let the legal process proceed. I appreciate the outpouring of support but want to emphasize that everyone should remain calm and please respect the university, its property and all that we value.
I have been incredibly blessed to spend my entire career working with people I love. I am grateful beyond words to all of the coaches, players and staff who have been a part of this program. And to all of our fans and supporters, my family and I will be forever in your debt."
Ok, they need to go to bed, past their bedtime:
Penn State Students Flip Over A TV News Van In Solidarity With Incompetent, Morally Complicit Old Relic
Seriously though, I think the entire board of directors needs to be ousted. It's amazing that so many people knew about this and let this guy remain affiliated with the university, let alone not reporting to police.
Last edited by RonMcNasty; 11-10-2011 at 08:55 AM.
He knew. Why else would Sandusky step down as defensive co-ordinator when he was Joe's heir apparent? In 1999?! Why was Joe Paterno, his good buddy, not at his retirement dinner? Why, in his disgustingly titled book "Touched", did Sandusky rave about other PS coaches but barely mention Joe, his boss of 20 years?
My thoughts are Joe being Joe thought he could handle it better than the authorities and told Sandusky to step retire or else. That's the kind of ego these guys get. Joe Pa reminds me a hell of a lot of a Catholic Bishop in this. The hell with him.
I had a very high opinion of Joe Paterno prior to this but my opinion now is that he's a lowlife SOB.
Last edited by sometimesilie; 11-10-2011 at 09:00 AM.
To heck with it being "forgotten" and saving his reputation. If he had dealt with it swiftly, it may have prevented who knows how many more children from getting molested. THAT's how Joe Pa really messed this one up.
Also, Sandusky was pissed off because in 1999 JoePa said he would not be his successor as promised, hence his retirement. Maybe there is more to it though.
I'm curious as to all the details of this case. The Grand Jury is not necessarily fact as far as I know, though Sandusky is a scumbag. There is no way all of these charges against that monster aren't somewhat factual.
Last edited by johnnie; 11-10-2011 at 11:08 AM.
A Guide To The Child Sexual Abuse Charges Against Jerry Sandusky, And To Penn State's Alleged Willful Ignorance
ugh - this is sick. and the people being fired obviously should be. I think anyone who objects has not read this article or one just like it. if it were my kid loosing their job would have been the least of their worries.
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This just in from the new head coach:
NBCPhiladelphia: RT @colinmacaulay: Mike McQueary will coach on Saturday, Bradey says. Not determined whether he'll be upstairs or on the sideline.
This is why this whole firing Joe Paterno is just a scapegoat just to get this fire off their back. As long as the person who saw the actual disgusting RAPE and DID NOTHING is still coaching, this is just an injustice to every single victim.
Edit: While doing some poking around, I found this:
Seems this has been brewing since spring.
Last edited by Sailaway; 11-10-2011 at 11:50 AM.
If you believe people should work till they die to pay for a government worker to retire at 50, you're a Democrat. Otherwise, you're a Republican. All other differences between the parties are trivial.
Watching all this unfold, I heard someone on the radio raising some interesting points:
- If one day, out of the blue, someone comes to me and says that my coworker and business partner for 20 or so years is raping kids, It would be pretty hard for me to process and believe. It's so out there and revolting that I would doubt it's true, which I guess is what Paterno felt, still he went on and report it right away to his superiors (the same day he called them and had a meeting the next day).
-If you know that the College higher ups are already handling the situation, and probably the police is on it as well, what else could you do?
I mean, what else can someone do, when even the Police and District Attorney investigate the allegations and decide not to press charges? Any ordinary person would think that nothing was actually going on.
"Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant's report at his home on a Saturday morning. Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley ("Curley"), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."
Seems like he knew enough.