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    Default Moscow, Beijing, Sao Paolo, Milan, Buenos Aires, London, Paris: all have worse traffic than any US city!

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    Well that should put the (deserving) kibosh on commuter traffic fees into cities, especially this one.
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    To paraphrase Churchill, the U.S. has the worst traffic system in the world, other than all the others.

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    Even Philly isn't as bad as DC, Atlanta, or Boston...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl View Post
    Well that should put the (deserving) kibosh on commuter traffic fees into cities, especially this one.
    It's about parking and quality of life. I would suspect that people in Philly would resolve to limit traffic in the city rather than suffer half of the air pollution the above cities have now. Also, in China I suspect the government can put a parking garage regardless of size in any location, and that will never happen in Philly. Plus, people in China can be thrown out of their homes for a new highway, which ironically happened to the Chinese in Philly but I doubt if it could be done again.

    Also, drivers in the cities above do not have the expectations of freedom that Americans do and there is no way Philadelphia can continue to meet the expectations of drivers in this area with regard to parking and roads. Every year the driving speed is reduced by increase in traffic.
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    Our traffic naturally yisn't bad.

    It's what the city and townships do to it for the sake of "walkability" and "traffic calming" that kills it.


    Example.

    The Schuykill is bad. Not horrible but bad.


    Then, at the top of the Girard Ramp, the city extended the red timing and then added a no turn on red that cripples the intersection...

    thus 76 backs up, not due to volume but to ****ty traffic engineering.

    (and people don't cross where the sign was put up to protect the peds, I get the concept, it's just applied everywhere)

    Same happened at the 30th Street Ramps to Cira Centre. SInce they removed the no turn on red the traffic now is bearable.


    Just a comment.

    Many of our traffic problems are our own creation and not from sheer volume.


    It's political decisions that seem to cause the most "traffic" in the city via bike lanes, extended reds, no tunr on reds, curb bump outs, failure to time lights..

    and the dreaded "traffic calming" where they intentionally cause traffic.
    I'm not seeing all these supposed bikes in all these million dollar bike lanes.

 

 

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