Patriot
You forgot to note that Switzerland is populated by the Swiss and Japan is predominately populated by the Japanese....Here is the good ol USA our "melting pot" has everything and tends to lead to friction among the various cultures and races.Originally Posted by Sailaway
In the end we're all just chalk lines on the concrete
Drawn only to be washed away
For the time that I've been given
I am what I am
Utarded
The solution? More jails. First time gun offenses are a mandatory 10 year sentence.
Less gun crimes are committed when thugs who use guns for crime are not walking among us.
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guns are not a defensive weapon. that's all.
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what about the crazy people?
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America already has more people incarcerated than any other country except China, I believe. Just the dollar price for doing this is pretty high, and such mandatory sentencing would only lead to making it astronomical, not to mention spawning the further expansion of an already big private jail industry and an entire slice of economy dependent on the justice system providing more and more inmates for the new jails.
We can't updates our schools but are happy to build brand new jails.
"If men loved Pimlico as mothers love children, arbitrarily, because it is THEIRS, Pimlico in a year or two might be fairer than Florence. Some readers will say that this is a mere fantasy. I answer that it is the actual history of mankind. This, as a fact is how cities did grow great...Men did not love Rome because she was great. She was great because they had loved her."
-G.K. Chesterton
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Prisons generate a lot more income for municipalities.
Super Troll
Actually, we have 700% the number of prisoners as China (per capita).
Prisoners per capita (most recent) by country
And more overall than anyone, too.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rime-prisoners
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yes, it was the "friction between cultures and races" that caused a horny short guy to go shoot up a room full of women he'd never met.
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Guns are required for those positions.
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Giggity Giggity Goo!
They are not an offensive weapon. If they were, cops couldn't carry them.
Therefore, they must be defensive weapons.
And the stats prove it.
The fundamental difference between modern liberalism/progressivism and most other similar ideologies is that liberalism seeks to make everyone equally mediocre, while other ideologies seek to make others equally excellent. In other words, liberalism/progressivism rewards the worst of the worst, whereas other ideologies rewards those who actually care.
Giggity Giggity Goo!
Actually, not always.
Regardless of whether or not they are required, if guns are for pu$$ies, then cops and soldiers must be the biggest pu$$ies of all.
The fundamental difference between modern liberalism/progressivism and most other similar ideologies is that liberalism seeks to make everyone equally mediocre, while other ideologies seek to make others equally excellent. In other words, liberalism/progressivism rewards the worst of the worst, whereas other ideologies rewards those who actually care.
Utarded
Ban all guns and jaggovs like this guy would just rape women when the switch in their head flipped.
Then you crypto-sociologists can rally to ban schlongs.
Super Troll
And if he had been a law abiding citizen he wouldn't have planned a massacre for months and then carried it out. Funny thing about criminals, they don't obey gun laws.
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I said I don't know what the solution is, but clearly something is very wrong. I didn't say anything about gun laws.
There is a new massacre every week. In many cases, police officers are the first in the line of fire -- most recently Jersey City, but just in the past year, Oakland, Pittsburgh, and of course the tragedies in Philly.
This doesn't happen in other countries. There has to be a solution besides the entire populace armed 24/7. I'd love to hear some.
Utarded
If one person in that gym had a gun, maybe it would be have been different.
And let us not forget all of those VT students that obeyed the "gun free zone".
Every massive crime brings out the sociologists that think a single, pedantic idea can change the world for the better.
An individual with an obvious defect of the brain and a disturbing relationship with females made a decision to engage in psychotic behavior. This has nothing to do with anything but one man and the worm in his head.
Giggity Giggity Goo!
It happens more often overseas than you think, and arming the populace 24/7 really is the only solution.
Not to say other things can't be done, but I'm not sure if they could be within the framework of our Constitution and depending on how careful the next nutcase is about choosing his words. I don't know exactly what the gym killer said on his blog, but perhaps his earlier planned attack could rise to the level of a terroristic threat. Short of that, unless he threatened somebody or some place specifically, I can't think of anything for which he could have been arrested, prosecuted, and convicted. Especially if he evokes his right to free speech as a defense. (Rain or anybody else know?)
The fundamental difference between modern liberalism/progressivism and most other similar ideologies is that liberalism seeks to make everyone equally mediocre, while other ideologies seek to make others equally excellent. In other words, liberalism/progressivism rewards the worst of the worst, whereas other ideologies rewards those who actually care.
Super Troll
You implied that if his access to guns were restricted this would have been different.
Actually, it does happen in other countries. Not an encompassing list as I spent 14 seconds digging these up.This doesn't happen in other countries. There has to be a solution besides the entire populace armed 24/7. I'd love to hear some.
August 19, 1987 Europe North Hungerford, England Hungerford massacre A gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles and a handgun killed 16 people before committing suicide.
December 6, 1989 Montréal, Quebec École Polytechnique massacre. Marc Lépine, claiming to fight feminism, shot and killed 14 female students of the École Polytechnique de Montréal and wounded 14 other people before turning his gun on himself.
March 13, 1996 North Scotland Dunblane massacre. A gunman opened fire in a primary school, killing sixteen children and one teacher before killing himself .
April 29, 1996 Australia and New Zealand Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia Port Arthur massacre . The Port Arthur massacre of 28 April 1996 was a killing spree which claimed the lives of 35 people and wounded 21 others mainly at the historic tourist site Port Arthur in south-eastern Tasmania, Australia. The massacre remains Australia's deadliest mass killing spree and remains one of the deadliest such incidents worldwide in recent times
As far as solutions, I propose ending the war on drugs. Freeing non-violent drug offenders from prison. And using the vast resources that would free up to address violent crime and apply true justice to violent criminals. Keep violent criminals locked up. Provide sufficient (mental) health care. And completely remake our nations puritanical view which reviles nudity and sexuality and glorifies violence which is a juxtaposition of the views held by nearly every other modern nation.
Ready? Go!
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Hear hear!
Throw in the legalization of at least marijuana and use tax revenue for mental health/drug addiction/jobs programs.
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-Ode, Arthur O'Shaughnessy
Super Troll
Done. Anything else?
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