Legal pistols

**donnabella** · 07-19-2012, 03:16 PM

Would like to start a thread about legal and responsible gun ownership in the city.
I know this is a knee-jerk topic, and ask that people hold their opinions. I am looking for facts and genuine advice.
Can anyone direct me to statistics about numbers of such owners? Any female gun owners want to give me constructive advice? There are many helpful blogs of a national scope, but would like to hear from my fellow Philadelphians.

**darthsinatra** · 07-19-2012, 03:22 PM

All you'll get on this site is a lot of emotion and rhetoric. Try this site instead

Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association

**carloss** · 07-19-2012, 06:52 PM

PW reported on this topic a few years ago:

Who's Packin' Heat in Philly? | Cover Story | News and Opinion | Philadelphia Weekly

**Giavella Water** · 07-19-2012, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by darthsinatra

All you'll get on this site is a lot of emotion and rhetoric. Try this site instead

Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association

Thanks for the link. It's a great site. Lots of the people on this site are full of attitude and emotion.

**Gladys** · 07-20-2012, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Giavella Water

Thanks for the link. It's a great site. Lots of the people on this site are full of attitude and emotion.

"Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, ‘Friend, let me take out the speck in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye. " Matthew 7 3-5

**JasonMcElroy** · 07-20-2012, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Gladys

"Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, ‘Friend, let me take out the speck in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye. " Matthew 7 3-5

"Wheresoevereth there exists a gun discussion, there must also be made mention of Jesus. For religion and guns are inseparably entwined and must remain so. This is the truth of our existence even if inexplicable." - Jason McElroy 7 20

**O.H. Lee** · 07-20-2012, 10:44 AM

W.C.W.J.C. - What Caliber Would Jesus Carry ?

**thegreattwizz** · 07-20-2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by O.H. Lee

W.C.W.J.C. - What Caliber Would Jesus Carry ?

A .316 of course!!!!!

**donnabella** · 07-20-2012, 11:42 AM

Got some helpful pointers and a coupla chuckles. Thanks

**Polar Cub** · 07-20-2012, 12:09 PM

At a recent course I attended, It was 4 men, and 8 women. The women usually outnumber the men.

**darthsinatra** · 07-20-2012, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by thegreattwizz

a .316 of course!!!!!

ftw. You sir are a genius.

**thegreattwizz** · 07-20-2012, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by darthsinatra

ftw. You sir are a genius.

So I have been told.

**O.H. Lee** · 07-20-2012, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Polar Cub

... The women usually outnumber the men.

And usually listen to instruction better.

**WillABro** · 07-21-2012, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by O.H. Lee

And usually listen to instruction better.

And have better aim.

**Sycamore** · 07-21-2012, 12:57 PM

I have a Glock 19 4th gen. I love it. I'm about to buy a Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 380 as a carry piece. I'm a member at my local range (not in Philly) and there are a fair number of women there, but generally with their boyfriends. It's fun, just take the time to become familiar with your gun. I go at least once a week to practice.

**Sycamore** · 07-21-2012, 12:58 PM

Also, I'm not sure how things differ in the city, but in Chester County it was super easy to get a license to carry.

**thegreattwizz** · 07-21-2012, 01:30 PM

What's making you go with the S&W 380 as opposed to the LCP? Having never shot that S&W I can't offer an opinion, but I found the LCP to be one of the best shooting carry pieces I've ever handled.

**Sycamore** · 07-22-2012, 01:20 PM

It's a close call, but the shorter trigger pull and integrated laser sights (!!) put the SW over the edge, plus I like the way it looks.

They're similarly priced. There's a used bodyguard at Targetmaster for under $300, but I'm not sure a $100 discount is worth buying a used gun....especially since I understand there were laser sight issues with the early Bodyguards.

And, I realize that given the use of the bodyguard (short range, carry pistol) the sights aren't as likely to be super useful, I still love them.

My guy just bought a sight for his AR and it makes it so much more fun. Now I want them on everything.

**thegreattwizz** · 07-23-2012, 11:37 AM

Understood, and having never shot the SW, I can say the trigger on the LCP is longer (but plenty light) than I feel it should be on such a small gun. FWIW, the LCP has TWO variants of integrated laser sights; Crimson Trace and another brand. The CT have been well reviewed on every piece and on the LCP, unlike on the SW, they are activated by grip, not a button you need to push with the trigger finger. For $100 on a gun like that, I wouldn't go used. It's not like these are 10k round range monsters, and given the propensity for pocket carry, I'd be concerned about the care.

I have a laser on my AR, and it is awesome. More fun than function, but still cool nonetheless. My next purchase is a sub compact SW M&P9, and CT makes the laser for it; that'll be my new carry piece.

**Sycamore** · 07-23-2012, 12:18 PM

I bought it brand new yesterday and had a blast practicing. I never realize how super easy the trigger pull on my Glock is until I switch weapons.

Love the SW, but getting used to the much shorter grip is going to be my main focus. The Glock just feels so much more accurate and easy, even with the increased size and weight. And, I'm only 5'6", I don't have large hands.

The guy just ordered les baer and wilson 1911s, but one will take 6 months and the other 12 months to come in. Those I can't WAIT to try.