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    Quote Originally Posted by WillABro View Post
    There is nothing even remotely funny about a town going broke and city workers losing their lively hood. The OP comes off like a real jerk for the title of the thread.
    And there is nothing remotely funny abt people losing the homes they fully own due to tax liens. I'm sure these city/public workers have all the sympathy in the world when that happens, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheCage View Post
    And there is nothing remotely funny abt people losing the homes they fully own due to tax liens. I'm sure these city/public workers have all the sympathy in the world when that happens, no?
    That's a straw man argument. All I am saying is LMAO at this situation is unwarranted and distasteful. And it's not only Scranton, there are many cities in the same boat. I could care less about Scranton but in the larger scheme of things having cities and states facing collapse while the federal government is expanding is not a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillABro View Post
    There is nothing even remotely funny about a town going broke and city workers losing their lively hood. The OP comes off like a real jerk for the title of the thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheCage View Post
    And there is nothing remotely funny abt people losing the homes they fully own due to tax liens. I'm sure these city/public workers have all the sympathy in the world when that happens, no?
    Quote Originally Posted by WillABro View Post
    That's a straw man argument. All I am saying is LMAO at this situation is unwarranted and distasteful. And it's not only Scranton, there are many cities in the same boat. I could care less about Scranton but in the larger scheme of things having cities and states facing collapse while the federal government is expanding is not a good thing.
    No more of strawman when posters are ranting abt my post being funny because "city workers losing their lively hood". Is it only their (public workers) lively hood that matters?
    Curious why you feel one is a strawman and the other isn't ..


    The federal govt will be collapsing soon .. when I don't know but the law of economics will not allow the continued utopian orgy to last forever ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheCage View Post
    And there is nothing remotely funny abt people losing the homes they fully own due to tax liens. I'm sure these city/public workers have all the sympathy in the world when that happens, no?
    I'll just point out that most people in Philly think city workers are way, way, way too "sympathetic" on this particular point.

    Remember no new assessments till we improve on the number of tax lien sales that actually go through?

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    I thought this thread would be a good discussion of the municipal debt crisis
    "imagination and memory are but one thing, which for diverse considerations hath diverse names" - Thomas Hobbes

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    Not to call your reading skills into question, but "LMAO", "@", and "NicktheCage" should have all indicated quite the opposite.

    Quote Originally Posted by MariusPontmercy View Post
    I thought this thread would be a good discussion of the municipal debt crisis

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    Ha, ha. Nothing makes me crack up like a good discussion of the municipal debt crisis and pension fund investment strategies. Sure to make me spit milk out my nose.

    That and people suffering generally. Thats just hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickTheCage View Post
    And there is nothing remotely funny abt people losing the homes they fully own due to tax liens. I'm sure these city/public workers have all the sympathy in the world when that happens, no?
    Have you ever seen a public worker posting gleeful threads online about foreclosures? Starting threads like, "LMAO @ PEOPLE GETTING THROWN OUT OF THEIR HOUSES LOLOLOLOL" People would probably be pretty outraged by that, regardless of their political leanings.

    You're basically the anarcho-capitalist bizarro version of this dickbag i just made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thoth View Post
    Have you ever seen a public worker posting gleeful threads online about foreclosures? Starting threads like, "LMAO @ PEOPLE GETTING THROWN OUT OF THEIR HOUSES LOLOLOLOL" People would probably be pretty outraged by that, regardless of their political leanings.

    You're basically the anarcho-capitalist bizarro version of this dickbag i just made up.
    I'm sure the public workers are so upset over this this


    Scranton pays up owed income plus interest to city employees | Fox News

    City employees in Scranton who earlier this month saw their pay slashed to paid minimum wage over a dispute between city leaders will soon get the money owed them, plus interest.

    With the pay reinstated, John Judge, president of the local firefighters union, said he was “cautiously optimistic” the city’s latest financial crisis is over.

    Earlier this month Scranton attracted international attention when Mayor Chris Doherty, a Democrat, said the city was unable to meet its million-dollar payroll, and he ordered all 400 city workers to be paid the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. Doherty, whose salary is $50,000 a year, slashed his own pay along with police, firefighters and public works employees.

    Unions representing city workers went to court and won an injunction preventing Doherty from violating collective bargaining agreements. The mayor ignored the court order, explaining the city did not have money to pay workers their full salaries.

    Firefighters like Judge called the mayor’s decision “insulting.”

    “These guys are trained professionals. These guys train every day," he said. "They put their lives on the line.”

    Two weeks ago, citing improved tax flow, the mayor restored full pay but still faced a contempt hearing for ignoring a judge’s order. The city, meanwhile, owed workers about $700,000 in back wages.

    Last Friday, the mayor and city council, all of whom are Democrats, reached agreement on a financial recovery plan that among other things calls for a minimum 33 percent increase in real estate taxes. Pending state approval, the plan paves the way for Scranton to almost immediately receive more than $2 million through in a state loan and a grant.

    The mayor then struck a deal with the unions to pay the back wages and 6 percent interest. In exchange, the unions dropped their contempt petition against the mayor.

    Doherty described the last month as a “tough situation.” “Employees deserve to be paid," he said. "They have done a good job for the city, that is never a question, and we have an obligation to pay them.”

    But Scranton’s financial problems are not over. Long-term debt is over $250 million, including $15 million owed to police and firefighters resulting from wage hikes that were not honored.

    Teri Ooms of the Pennsylvania-based Institute for Public Policy and Economic Development said Scranton faces “several more years of crisis mode and then several years of rebuilding mode before we can say we have weathered the storm.”

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    ^^^^And this is how Government confiscates your property from you anytime they want^^^^
    Land of the free .. lmfao

 

 

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