Can Pennsylvania Recall Gov. Tom Corbett?

[Gio7707]

Gov. Tom Corbett Unveils 2012-2013 Budget... is this right ??? cuts to education, 30 percent cut for Temple University and a 28 percent reduction for Penn State, among others..cuts to the disabled etc...is this really gonna happen ??

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[eldondre]

AFAIK, there are no additional cuts to education. I've found him to be somewhat disappointing but he shouldn't be too worried about extreme publications like the PW. those folks never voted for him anyway

[Politburo]

No, I believe there is only recall at the township level (when specified in the applicable home rule charter).

[annie]

AFAIK, there are no additional cuts to education.

Uh, the public school children of Philadelphia beg to differ:

Corbett budget proposal out today | Philadelphia Public School Notebook

Gov. Tom Corbett gave his budget address to the Pennsylvania legislature today. According to the Inquirer, proposed changes to public education funding could result in a $21.6 million decrease in funding for the Philadelphia public schools, although the District would not confirm a number.
Overall, the proposed budget includes about the same amount for basic education. But he combined several line items, including the Accountability Block Grants, into a new funding stream he is calling Student Achievement Education Block Grant, resulting in a net loss of $94 million statewide. This is where Philadelphia would lose out.

[Bob_Head]

Gov. Tom Corbett Unveils 2012-2013 Budget... is this right ??? cuts to education, 30 percent cut for Temple University and a 28 percent reduction for Penn State, among others..cuts to the disabled etc...is this really gonna happen ??

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Can and should are two different things. Even if we could, we really shouldn't. And, mind you, I'm not a fan of Corbett.

Here's the thing. Corbett isn't doing damn thing he didn't say he would do. He said he would cut the budget. He's doing that. He said he wouldn't raise taxes. He's making good on that process, too. So, he's doing what people elected him to do, and the fact that you and I don't care for that really doesn't matter. Two things people really need to learn....elections matter, and people generally get the government they deserve. If people weren't paying attention, or couldn't bother to show up on election day, that's their problem. If our side was too stupid or lazy to show up, well....

We'll get another crack at Corbett in a couple years. Until then, rather than wasting time, effort and money on a recall attempt, work on the elections in between. They all matter.

[boognish]

A community should be able to support itself. The sad reality is that Philadelphia is so woefully corrupt and in control of the poverty pimps that our tax dollars get shuttled off to vanity projects and protein sinks instead of our children.

When you pay off a superintendent instead to kicking her to the curb, this is what you get. It's not the responsibility of a hardworking Joe in central PA to educate our kids. That's our responsibility.

[annie]

I agree that elections have consequences and the recall for Corbett will go nowhere but I disagree that the city of Philadelphia should **** off and die until the next election just because Corbett says so. You know who approved Ackerman's outrageous airtight contract and agreed to her golden parachute? The School Reform Commission which is the STATE OVERSIGHT BOARD for the Philadelphia School District. The state should be held responsible for taking oversight control of the PSD, actively screwing up the PSD's finances or at the very last aiding and abetting those who did and then refusing to properly fund the district. I wonder how "hardworking Joe in Central PA" will fair if the largest economy in the state tanks after the mass middle class exodus from the McCall, Meredith, PAS etc. catchments due to the unthinkable cuts that are on the way. There's a lot of misplaced confidence on here that only the "bad" schools in the district will suffer in all this.

Shame on anyone that's rolling over instead of fighting for our city.

[BarryG]

Corbett's budget is a proposal that will get shaken out by the legislature. All the outrage is way premature.

[boognish]

But won't you please think of the children!?

<Mrs. Lovejoy>And she's on drugs!</Mrs. Lovejoy>

Having grown up in Central PA, I love the idea of anyone within 30 miles of Philly giving a crap about this. Philly needs to pick itself up by the bootstraps. The money's here; it's just going to the wrong places.

[mixiboi]

A community should be able to support itself.

I agree, which is why the state should stop taking our money. Especially the Philadelphia Parking Authority.

[stonefly]

PA has natural resource that is currently being exploited that we could tax and help fund public education.

[Bob_Head]

Shame on anyone that's rolling over instead of fighting for our city.

I'm not suggesting anyone rolls over. I'm suggesting that even if a recall could be successful, it would be the wrong thing to do. Corbett hasn't done anything he didn't say he would. He hasn't used any inappropriate or strong-arm tactics to force he agenda. He won, we lost. It's that simple. That's what elections are about. GIO7707 and I are neighbors. I believe we vote in the same place. In the 2008 election, the line to vote was down the block and around the corner. In 2010 the same polling place had fewer voters for the entire day than it had in the first hour. My neighbors showed up in droves for the opportunity to vote the first black President. When it came time to vote for the future of their own black children, they didn't show. Who get's the blame for that? A recall is hugely expensive, and sucks up a lot of political resources. Even if recall is possible, if you were to start organizing and collecting signatures right now, there's no way it would be on a ballot before 2013, and at that point Corbett's only got a year until the next election. Is it really worth all that to knock a year off his term?

[raider.adam]

No, I believe there is only recall at the township level (when specified in the applicable home rule charter).

Recall was ruled unconstitutional when it was attempted on Rizzo.

I agree, which is why the state should stop taking our money. Especially the Philadelphia Parking Authority.

You are aware the PPA pays tens of millions of dollars to Philadelphia, right?

Here are their Financials for review. http://philapark.org/about-ppa/

[mixiboi]

You are aware the PPA pays tens of millions of dollars to Philadelphia, right? Looks like FY2010 it was just over $41 million.

And how much does the state take?

[raider.adam]

And how much does the state take?

edit:

Correction. Looks like $71 million was paid out to Philadelphia and the School district. 4.7 million went to PennDOT. (Assuming I am reading the financials correctly.)

[Gio7707]

GIO7707 and I are neighbors. I believe we vote in the same place. In the 2008 election, the line to vote was down the block and around the corner. In 2010 the same polling place had fewer voters for the entire day than it had in the first hour. My neighbors showed up in droves for the opportunity to vote the first black President. When it came time to vote for the future of their own black children, they didn't show.

????? So is this the way to find out about the mystery of the wild wild web ??? Did I eventually leave a GPS somewhere ??? Or is it just Google ??

Can you please pm me your location ?? I would like to great you ...

[Bob_Head]

GIO7707 and I are neighbors. I believe we vote in the same place. In the 2008 election, the line to vote was down the block and around the corner. In 2010 the same polling place had fewer voters for the entire day than it had in the first hour. My neighbors showed up in droves for the opportunity to vote the first black President. When it came time to vote for the future of their own black children, they didn't show.

????? So is this the way to find out about the mystery of the wild wild web ??? Did I eventually leave a GPS somewhere ??? Or is it just Google ??

Can you please pm me your location ?? I would like to great you ...

That's only an assumption based on the times you've posted here about Overbrook Park happenings. We're not exactly the center of attention.

[boognish]

Be careful. Looks like he wants to great you.

[annie]

Corbett's budget is a proposal that will get shaken out by the legislature. All the outrage is way premature.

I hope so but the legislature needs to hear from people EARLY that this is unacceptable:
Sen. Hughes to School Parents: 'Make Some Noise' - Roxborough-Manayunk, PA Patch

I was not happy the way the local politicians dicked around until after the primary last year to take action. The School District followed suit and acted slowly and by mid-year there was a $68 million budget gap, now thanks to some drastic cuts we only have $38.8 million to go by June. FY2012-2013 is starting off with $269 million gap which could go up if Corbett's budget goes through and/or this year's remaining gap is not closed.

Philly needs to pick itself up by the bootstraps. The money's here; it's just going to the wrong places.

That's rich coming from someone whose catchment school gets extra $$$ from a large private institution. Let them eat cake!

[BarryG]

I hope so but the legislature needs to hear from people EARLY that this is unacceptable:
Sen. Hughes to School Parents: 'Make Some Noise' - Roxborough-Manayunk, PA Patch

I was not happy the way the local politicians dicked around until after the primary last year to take action. The School District followed suit and acted slowly and by mid-year there was a $68 million budget gap, now thanks to some drastic cuts we only have $38.8 million to go by June. FY2012-2013 is starting off with $269 million gap which could go up if Corbett's budget goes through and/or this year's remaining gap is not

Fine but I don't see what calling for Corbett's recall has to do with any of that.