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    Exclamation Wikileaks / j.assange : Robin hood of the world ??

    Who is afraid of Wikileaks ??

    Looks like in this time of digital future we have a new modern Robin Hood who shows the world what freedom of press means , and he's not afraid !!

    Now, please don't attack me, I do not sympathize with certain leaks/information like the latest one (wikileaks cables ) which can cause serious damage to the US ..

    However keep in mind that because of him we were able to raise money with the leaks of tax evasion with Swiss banks (UBS).

    http://www.swisswhistleblower.com/

    Rudolf Elmer which leaked information to Wikileaks about hiding tax money through the Julius Baer Private Bank in Switzerland. And also prompted the arrest of Birkenfeld.

    Wikileaks also revealed interesting financial numbers about a Student loan lender SLM (It was one of the biggest and it's now bought by Bofa).

    The Peoples’ Records

    So, for now I can't wait for the next big one from WL : A US bank which probably was involved with the fraudulent foreclosures and forced people to leave their houses !!

    http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...k_founder_says

    And Bank of America it is !!

    Ken Lewis you better run ..

    In an interview with the IDG News Service last year, Assange contended that WikiLeaks had obtained a hard drive of an executive officer at the Bank of America that held close to 5GB of data.

    Bank of America stock is down 2.5% today on news that Wikileaks may release
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    Default Manning is talking and arrrested

    The authorities suspected that online Assange had direct contact with Manning. . The now imprisoned Manning had indicated that Assange gave him access to the Wikileaks server to upload the documents.

    Concern is that for the U.S.,is probably the next scheduled "investigative coup" by Wikileaks.. End of November, announced the Internet platform that it will publish early in 2011 of thousands of internal documents from a U.S. bank.(BofA) . This will provide a "new insight into the banking system."

    Can't wait for that one !!!

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    I'm also eagerly waiting for the BOA disclosure! Assange is my hero.

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    The interesting thing is that if you actually listen to people who know what they're talking about on diplomatic matters (and those voices are sadly hard to find in a lot of media outlets), it is clear that the diplomatic cable leaks were more of a headache than anything seriously damaging.

    Assange strikes me as a narcissistic blowhard and a borderline anarchist, but he is an interesting figure. There is a fascinating and insightful book to be written here about what his antics say about our moment in history and technology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanibus View Post
    The interesting thing is that if you actually listen to people who know what they're talking about on diplomatic matters (and those voices are sadly hard to find in a lot of media outlets), it is clear that the diplomatic cable leaks were more of a headache than anything seriously damaging.

    Assange strikes me as a narcissistic blowhard and a borderline anarchist, but he is an interesting figure. There is a fascinating and insightful book to be written here about what his antics say about our moment in history and technology.
    The cables themselves aren't what is damaging. It is that such sensitive information was so easily removed and disseminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raider.adam View Post
    The cables themselves aren't what is damaging. It is that such sensitive information was so easily removed and disseminated.
    Yes, that is completely true. But not Assange's fault.

    My father was in the State Department for almost 40 years and he was astounded that security procedures had eroded to the point where a military intelligence guy in the Middle East had access to cables from embassies around the world. Even as recently as the late 1990s, when my father retired, that guy would have been forced to prove he had a "need to know" in order to so much as glance at cables outside his area of geographic or topical specialty, let alone get electronic access to copy the wholesale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raider.adam View Post
    The cables themselves aren't what is damaging. It is that such sensitive information was so easily removed and disseminated.
    First of all, its pretty easy to see that the government uses its powers of classifying documents to an extreme. Time Magazine had a good piece about the huge increase in creating classified documents in the past couple of years. Basically, it comes down to the fact that if practically every document generated is classified, the value of that secrecy comes into question.

    Second of all, if the whistle blower laws weren't so full of loop holes people with information wouldn't be scared to death to bring information of wrong doing to the appropriate authorities or media outlets.

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    Default Xmas gift : Wikileaks will be a Headache for the SEC

    “The S.E.C. could be on the horns of a dilemma,” said Mark C. Zauderer, a veteran corporate litigator at Flemming Zulack Williamson Zauderer.

    A spokesman for the S.E.C. declined to comment.

    Prospect of WikiLeaks Dump Poses Problems for Regulators - NYTimes.com

    WikiLeaks, a Headache for Bank Regulators Julian Assange's warning that his organization has dirt on a major American bank might be making executives nervous. But regulators might be even more worried

    Dumping gigabytes of internal e-mail and documents could be an embarrassment to investigators who've spent two years scrutinizing Wall Street without charging anyone for the crisis, Andrew Ross Sorkin writes in his latest column.

    Already, the Securities and Exchange Commission is bracing for a public outcry, according to people who've spoken to senior officials at the regulator

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    I want the bank info ASAP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malloy View Post
    I want the bank info ASAP!
    Agreed. This could be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malloy View Post
    I want the bank info ASAP!
    Ok, sorry no you have to wait until January 2011 , manning is now in prison (solitary confiment) sine 700days..the situation is getting worse every day..

    Also I forgot to send you this link which was on Fox News about killing him illegaly ...

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    Bob Beckel: "We’ve got special ops forces. I mean, a dead man can’t leak stuff.

    This guy’s a traitor, a treasonous, and he has broken every law of the United States. The guy ought to be—and I’m not for the death penalty—so if I’m not for the death penalty, there’s only one way to do it: illegally shoot the son of a bitch."

    Fox Analyst Calls for Assange's Killing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanibus View Post
    The interesting thing is that if you actually listen to people who know what they're talking about on diplomatic matters (and those voices are sadly hard to find in a lot of media outlets), it is clear that the diplomatic cable leaks were more of a headache than anything seriously damaging.

    Assange strikes me as a narcissistic blowhard and a borderline anarchist, but he is an interesting figure. There is a fascinating and insightful book to be written here about what his antics say about our moment in history and technology.
    How is Assange an anarchist?
    The man is just fulfilling an essential function of freedom & liberty; exposing the evil's of our government.

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    I thought Assange was an Australian national? It's hard to commit treason against the United States when you're not a U.S. citizen.
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    Default Remember Daniel Ellsberg / Pentagon papers ??

    ELLSBERG:

    Julian Assange is not a criminal under the laws of the United States. I was the first one prosecuted for the charges that would be brought against him. I was the first person ever prosecuted for a leak in this country—although there had been a lot of leaks before me. That’s because the First Amendment kept us from having an Official Secrets Act. . . . The founding of this country was based on the principle that the government should not have a say as to what we hear, what we think, and what we read. . . .

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    Default The trial of Ex-Banker Rudolf Elmer/Julius Baer in Zurich will attract huge international attention

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstraw01 View Post
    How is Assange an anarchist?
    The man is just fulfilling an essential function of freedom & liberty; exposing the evil's of our government.
    Yup...next monday in Zurich/Switzerland.. Actually Elmer helped the US Justice Dept. to get this ball rolling (Tax evasion etc..)...And Assange will be there too...

    Now they try to get him for that in Swizterland ...

    Rudolf Elmer has to be on 19 Januar . January before the Zurich district court to answer. . The indictment, which is present Rundschau accuses him of assault and breach of bank secrecy. . Weeks before the trial predicted the German "time", the Swiss banks threatened "further embarrassment."

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    Default Ex-Swiss banker hands over files to WikiLeaks

    This will be interesting ... Rudolf Elmer backed out first...but he's back again ..

    A former Swiss banker on Monday handed over documents to WikiLeaks that he claims detail attempts by wealthy business leaders and lawmakers to evade tax payments.

    Ex-Swiss banker Rudolf Elmer hands over documents to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. - swissinfo


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    This guy will go down in history as being one of the greatest modern freedom fighters.

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    In my mind...the most frightening part about wikileaks is how seriously the government takes it.

    When those in charge become incensed by outspoken individuals and have to look through 100+ year old laws in an attempt to find a precedent to come up with a legitimate reason to clamp down on free speech we are all in big trouble. Its a short trip to thought police and secret prisons.

 

 

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