Wikileaks / j.assange : Robin hood of the world ??

**govtstatistic** · 07-14-2012, 01:02 PM

WikiLeaks win over Visa, MasterCard

HERO

**Gio7707** · 08-05-2012, 12:54 AM

**loveisnoise** · 08-07-2012, 05:33 AM

How exactly is he a hero? Wow-he has shown us that we spy on people. Surprise. Really. Golf clap. If he really wanted change he'd release the documents he claims to have about major banks.

**loveisnoise** · 08-07-2012, 05:37 AM

Here's one of the many things he went back on his word about.
WikiLeaks plans to release a U.S. bank's documents | Reuters

**Malloy** · 08-07-2012, 11:07 AM

I am most concerned with the bank stuff.

**seand** · 08-07-2012, 11:50 AM

Sounds like it might be documents relative to the continuing problems in many large bank's internal controls, which will probably lead to investigations that are overdue, not documents related to people's personal account information. Whatever you think of wikileaks, people inside the institutions these documents come from wouldn't pass this stuff along if they didn't think there was not serious problems in how things are done where they work.

**loveisnoise** · 08-07-2012, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by seand

Sounds like it might be documents relative to the continuing problems in many large bank's internal controls, which will probably lead to investigations that are overdue, not documents related to people's personal account information. Whatever you think of wikileaks, people inside the institutions these documents come from wouldn't pass this stuff along if they didn't think there was not serious problems in how things are done where they work.

That was only what someone in a bank gave up. There was also a lot of stuff about banks and ties to illegal organizations in the original wikileaks that this yahoo constantly says will rock the foundation of our banking system-but he doesn't do anything with it. Instead, we just get ridiculous reports of what type of women world leaders like and outdated and obvious snippets about our wars overseas.

**govtstatistic** · 08-08-2012, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by loveisnoise

That was only what someone in a bank gave up. There was also a lot of stuff about banks and ties to illegal organizations in the original wikileaks that this yahoo constantly says will rock the foundation of our banking system-but he doesn't do anything with it. Instead, we just get ridiculous reports of what type of women world leaders like and outdated and obvious snippets about our wars overseas.

The Banks In England, Iceland, And Quite A Few Around The World Are Making News
Too Bad America Is Not What It Use To Be
Our U.S Media Is Very Silent
Our Country Has Turned Over U.S Banks To Wall Street

**govtstatistic** · 08-14-2012, 10:49 PM

TrapWire investigation links transit systems and Anonymizer in global surveillance network

**Gio7707** · 08-16-2012, 10:17 AM

https://plus.google.com/114810779645...ts/94naVnsxUDV

Diplomatic fury as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange

Diplomatic fury as Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks founder Assange - World News

LIVE NOW ....HOWS HE GONNA LEAVE THE EMBASSY ??

#assange #ecuador #wikileaks embassy live via @alburyj #London | alburyj | Bambuser

Julian Assange can be arrested in Ecuador embassy, UK warns | Media | The Guardian

WIKILEAKS (ASSANGES) NEW FRIEND AND THE NEW ENEMY OF UK / USA ??

Ahead of decision on WikiLeaks founder's asylum claim, Quito accuses Britain of threat to trample international law

**Gio7707** · 08-17-2012, 03:55 PM

This is such an interesting case !!

Standoff at embassy after Ecuador grants asylum to WikiLeaks' Assange - CNN.com

there were "over 35 police surrounding the Ecuadorian embassy in London" soon after 12:30 a.m. Friday. Britain's foreign ministry, though, earlier countered that there was a larger "police presence outside the British Embassy in Quito" than at the Ecuadorian mission in London.

U.S. Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd on Thursday offered "no comment on Julian Assange or the dispute over his asylum between Ecuadorian and UK authorities."

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said that the Justice Department is conducting an "active, ongoing criminal investigation" into the WikiLeaks disclosure of hundreds of thousands of classified U.S. documents relating to the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan and about 250,000 U.S. diplomatic cables. Assange and his supporters claim a U.S. grand jury has been empaneled to consider charges against him.

A death sentence also can be imposed on those convicted of espionage by communicating certain sensitive information to a "foreign government" or other such faction "with intent or reason" to harm the United States, according to U.S. federal law. But there are death penalty restrictions for that crime.

Hugo Chavez, Bolivia's Evo Morales and Cuba's Fidel Castro, Ecuador President Rafael Correa has railed against the United States as an "imperial power that has to be checked," said Robert Amsterdam, a Canadian international lawyer who's worked on high-profile cases involving Latin America, Russia and Thailand.

Correa, an economist who earned two academic degrees in the United States and is up for re-election next February, said in an interview with Assange earlier this year on the activist's TV show: "I love and admire the American people a great deal ... But I will always call a spade a spade."

**seand** · 08-17-2012, 04:05 PM

Eventually, say after 6 months, the British will get tired of wasting money on the police presence.

All he needs to work is an internet connection, even if he's trapped there for another 15 years. It makes the UK and US look bad to keep him holed up for releasing documents given to him by leakers in their own house. Tighten your own security, first, don't try to bully the messenger for delivering a message it was your job to stop from going out in the first place.

**Gio7707** · 08-18-2012, 12:57 AM

INTERESTING :

Daniel Ellsberg: I Congratulate Ecuador for Standing Up to British Empire to Protect Julian Assange

Daniel Ellsberg, the most famous whistleblower in the United States, praises Ecuador for granting political asylum to Julian Assange to avoid extradition to Sweden for questioning over sex crime accusations. "I congratulate Ecuador, of course, for standing up to the British Empire here, for insisting that they are not a British colony, and acting as a sovereign state ought to act," said Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers in 1971, the secret history of the U.S. involvement in Vietnam. On Thursday, British Foreign Secretary William Hague said Assange would be arrested if he left the embassy, saying Britain is "under a binding obligation to extradite him to Sweden." Ellsberg adds, "[Assange] has every reason to be wary that the real intent here is to whisk him away to America, where it really hasn’t been made as clear what might be waiting for him." [includes rush transcript]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...nitely-2-.html

The absence of any political charges led Ecuador to grant the head of WikiLeaks “diplomatic” asylum, a legal instrument common in the Americas, though not recognized by the U.K. The Vienna Convention stipulates that nations are obliged to offer free passage to people with political asylum, without mentioning diplomatic asylum, said Robert Sloane, professor of international law at Boston University. The two sides may seek international arbitration to resolve the standoff, he said.

“This is a question of law that could be submitted to the International Court of Justice,” Sloane said in a telephone interview from Boston. “It would be a good option in the sense that it would allow each country to save face because each of them could simply say, ‘whatever the outcome, we’re complying with the judicial judgment.’”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4488214/

Embattled WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is set to face the world’s media on Sunday from the safe haven of London’s Ecuadoran embassy but risks arrest if he takes even one step out of the building.

With police officers primed to detain him, Mr. Assange must find a way of speaking publicly without setting foot outside, raising the possibility of him being forced to speak from a balcony or lean out of a window.

Incensed by London's threat to break into the Ecuadorean embassy where the former hacker is taking refuge, Correa's government has accused Britain of "colonial" bullying and has formally granted the Australian asylum.

"They're out of touch. Who do they think they're dealing with? Can't they see that this is a dignified and sovereign government which will not kneel down before anyone?" Correa said in his weekly address on Saturday.

**Gio7707** · 08-19-2012, 04:47 PM

people dont realize how big this has become :

Assange speaks from embassy - ITV News

UK-Ecuador relations

"Inside this embassy after dark I could hear teams of police swarming up into the building through its internal fire escape but I knew there would be witnesses and that is because of you," said the WikiLeaks founder, addressing supporters who have been turning out to maintain vigils outside the building.

"If the UK did not throw away the Vienna conventions the other night it is because the world was watching and the world was watching because you were watching." Julian Assange's reference relates to the second stairwell inside the building in Knightsbridge, west London, that houses the Ecuadorean embassy and other occupants.

This stairwell, which would be used to exit the building in an emergency, splits off to the front and back doors and leads to each of the occupants. It is not diplomatic territory.

A source who was in the embassy on Wednesday night agreed with Assange's use of the word "swarming", adding: "The kitchen of the embassy leads to the stairwell and the truth is that there was such a hullabaloo at around 9pm that we opened the door from it to look out.

"Once we saw them we just closed the door again and obviously they couldn't come over the threshold."

The source added that the police presence at that time of the night was "remarkable" because about five supporters were in the "pen" opposite the embassy, but about 20 police officers were outside the building, along with units from the Metropolitan police territorial support group.

The Ecuadorean embassy consists of a ground floor apartment, some 10 rooms in all, inside an imposing redbrick apartment block in London's Knightsbridge area. Other occupants are reported to include members of the Saudi royal family.

**darthsinatra** · 08-19-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Gio7707

people dont realize how big this has become :

Assange speaks from embassy - ITV News

That's possibly because people realize that Assange is one man and even if he is extradited to the US and then waterboarded to death at Gitmo Wikileaks will continue.