ATV / Motorbike Season Already?

**ArcticSplash** · 02-19-2012, 03:58 PM

Just now:

**guzzijason** · 02-19-2012, 04:26 PM

Saw about 15 of 'em on Girard in front of the zoo yesterday. Pisses me off - friggin wild, wild west out here. There's never a Wyatt Earp when you need one.

__Jason

**ArcticSplash** · 02-19-2012, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by guzzijason

Saw about 15 of 'em on Girard in front of the zoo yesterday. Pisses me off - friggin wild, wild west out here. There's never a Wyatt Earp when you need one.

__Jason

I was debating whether or not we should implant random pop-up bollards that shoot up out of the street at the slightest sound of rice-burners.

**guzzijason** · 02-19-2012, 05:03 PM

OR.... the PPD could actually start putting these things to use instead of just riding them around on Kelly Drive during regattas:

__Jason

**Malloy** · 02-19-2012, 05:18 PM

I hear/see them almost every day in Point Breeze.

**ArcticSplash** · 02-19-2012, 05:25 PM

It's warm enough today that they've been dragging down my street headed to... where else... Aramingo so they can get to the river to play broken-glass motorcross.

**Hospitalitygirl** · 02-19-2012, 06:31 PM

Heh. y'all got nothing on South Street!

**wislad** · 02-19-2012, 06:41 PM

Yes, this is the down side of a mild winter. Look on the bright side, the earlier they are out, the more likely they are to get killed before Spring actually arrives.

**Beer is good** · 02-19-2012, 07:26 PM

I hope so Wis

**ArcticSplash** · 02-28-2012, 11:33 PM

City Tries To Crack Down On ATV Drivers In Philly

No, I wasn't the one who called FOX29. But I'm guessing maybe the 26th District might suspect I did since I did send them the YouTube video to their e-mail the day I posted this thread.

**funk** · 02-29-2012, 11:35 AM

In the fall i was walking my dog up at Lemon Hill. There was a d-bag on an ATV going all over the place. conveniently, there was an officer from the 9th sitting in his patrol car doing god knows what, in full view of what was happening 100 yards away. i knocked on his window, and asked if he was going to do anything about it. He replied, "Ramsey won't let us chase these guys" and began rolling up his window before he said the word chase.

A-HOLE! he's older, portly, and bald. I've seen him around Fairmount ave. and wasting tax dollars/resources, i mean idling (btw, illegal) up the the park monitoring peaceful dog walkers and runners, but that's besides the point.

**Ho Chi Minh** · 02-29-2012, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by funk

In the fall i was walking my dog up at Lemon Hill. There was a d-bag on an ATV going all over the place. conveniently, there was an officer from the 9th sitting in his patrol car doing god knows what, in full view of what was happening 100 yards away. i knocked on his window, and asked if he was going to do anything about it. He replied, "Ramsey won't let us chase these guys" and began rolling up his window before he said the word chase.

A-HOLE! he's older, portly, and bald. I've seen him around Fairmount ave. and wasting tax dollars/resources, i mean idling (btw, illegal) up the the park monitoring peaceful dog walkers and runners, but that's besides the point.

He's not an A-HOLE for following direct orders.

**gren** · 02-29-2012, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Ho Chi Minh

He's not an A-HOLE for following direct orders.

Did Ramsey's directive say you can't chase ATVs or did it say you should completely ignore them?

**sharkey** · 02-29-2012, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Ho Chi Minh

He's not an A-HOLE for following direct orders.

That is the official police policy. I saw an ATV stopped at a traffic light right next to a police car. Light turned green and they both drove off. Why get a license and insurance; just drive an ATV around the city. The City says it doesn't have the manpower to crack down? These things are worth thousands of dollars each. Confiscate and sell them to fund enforcement.

**luchobucho** · 02-29-2012, 12:27 PM

Yeah, its kinda a dumb policy, cause it just gives people the impression that its okay.......thus the guy who is perfectly okay riding up next to the cop car at an intersection or the d-bag in the park 100m from the cop.

They need to do something.....or maybe it comes from the state, requiring licensing for these things? ( I know I don't generally advocate for more bueracracy). The people selling them shouldn't be allowed to release them with out providing a provisional registration and proof of insurance. Make them non-street legal motor vehicles. Require tags, make em bright orange.

And honestly, can someone really sue the city if they get injured while trying to evade the cops? Or is the no chase policy to protect innocent bystanders and property?

Originally Posted by sharkey

That is the official police policy. I saw an ATV stopped at a traffic light right next to a police car. Light turned green and they both drove off. Why get a license and insurance; just drive an ATV around the city. The City says it doesn't have the manpower to crack down? These things are worth thousands of dollars each. Confiscate and sell them to fund enforcement.

**JBL** · 02-29-2012, 12:29 PM

That was a straight up drug deal.

**hubba1** · 02-29-2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by luchobucho

Yeah, its kinda a dumb policy, cause it just gives people the impression that its okay.......thus the guy who is perfectly okay riding up next to the cop car at an intersection or the d-bag in the park 100m from the cop.

They need to do something.....or maybe it comes from the state, requiring licensing for these things? ( I know I don't generally advocate for more bueracracy). The people selling them shouldn't be allowed to release them with out providing a provisional registration and proof of insurance. Make them non-street legal motor vehicles. Require tags, make em bright orange.

And honestly, can someone really sue the city if they get injured while trying to evade the cops? Or is the no chase policy to protect innocent bystanders and property?

I think it's more for innocent bystanders and property damages from these dopes getting chased, and cutting up onto a sidewalk or down a narrow street to get away.

**luchobucho** · 02-29-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by hubba1

I think it's more for innocent bystanders and property damages from these dopes getting chased, and cutting up onto a sidewalk or down a narrow street to get away.

Gotcha. As I was typing that out, I began to think that was probably more the impetus behind that policy.
Nevertheless, its kinda messed up that thats all they're willing to do...nothing. Maybe they should just shoot the riders.

Or some Public outreach. I would be willing to guess alot of people don't know they're illegal? There are a lot of dumb people out there.

This is one of the things that drives me nutz about the city is the sense of lawlessness.

**eobrien** · 02-29-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by luchobucho

This is one of the things that drives me nutz about the city is the sense of lawlessness.

Exactly. There is no reason a policy cannot be developed to deal with this issue. A sense of lawlessness is what emboldens people to commit more serious crimes. Concurrently, it also alienates the law-abiding constituents of a community.

I understand there are risks to giving chase. But I think there are enough lawyers in this City where we could come up with some reasonable alternatives.