One underappreciated part of Philadelphianese is that lax 'i's' that would be slurred or even skipped when not stressed are quite stressed in Philly-
"Let's get him"- Leht's geht heem
"Pennypack"- never "Pennuhpack"
Sundee, Mondee, Tuesdee, etc...
Dough-nit - Doughnut
Eeee-liggle. Things y'aint sposeta be doin'.
You do realize that some of you sound pretty bad, and in fact worse than some of us.
I am not the Jackass Whisperer.
Who is the "us" and who is the "them" in this claim?Originally Posted by Hospitalitygirl
Sometimes it takes an outsider's perspective to notice something in ourselves.
In high school I was involved in musicals and chorus. Our vocal coach would constantly bitch to us about losing what she called the "ayoh" (tough to spell, but hopefully you know what I'm talking about) and the "wooder" sound. We were all dumbfounded and had no idea what she was talking about. We figured she was just crazy or something. How would we know, having never lived or spent significant time elsewhere? Having not the awareness (nor interest) of locale and pronunciation at that age.
A couple years later at college . . .
I INSTANTLY recognized all the people from the Philly area. Their pronunciation and vocabulary was so distinct. And to my ears at the time, not in a good way. I wondered if that's how I sounded to others. I guess I was a little embarrassed. I became self-conscious about it. Through no overt effort that I could discern at the time, I learned to lose it completely. For a number of reasons I wished to forget everything about my past and where I was from. That's one of the reasons I went to college so far from home.
As an adult having grown into myself and having gained confidence and pride in who I am and where I've been, I would never try to hide or be ashamed of my origins. I've also come to be greatly interested in language and speech and the peculiarities it can offer.
My friends in New York never had any idea I was from here until I'd come back from visiting for the weekend carrying a linguistic hangover that gave me away instantly.
Having moved back here after all these years, the things Philadelphians say and the way they say them interests me more than ever. In an endearing way, not a critical one.
I suspect HG was going to accuse me of being a transplant. . . then again it could just be Philly paranoia that lead me to believe so. ;-0
I am first generation born, so I don't actually have a "true Philadelphia accent" either. I have been told by more than one person that I speak with a slight accent. The nuns in school taught us to pronounce f-o-r-e-h-e-a-d as "far-id", and to make certain we pronounced the "r" in library and February. When I speak, most people aren't quite certain where I am from.
It is possible to detect the variations on the accent from neighborhood to neighborhood and the surrounding townships. Some are more annoying than others. But I have a collection of friends from around the country, and you can't really say that some regional dialects are better than ours. Some, are in fact, as grating as fingernails on a chalkboard
I am not the Jackass Whisperer.
I grew up in Delaware County. I never considered myself to have a Philadelphia accent, and could definitely identify it in some native Philadelphians. However, when I moved to Vermont, more than one person pegged me as being from Philadelphia by my accent alone.
I'm a lifelong Philadelphian, and I've still never heard anybody say "nay-oh" for "no" and "hay oh gie" for "hoagie".
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And I will not forget her, a common housewife, who rose above her nature.
Oh, don't get me started on Boston!It is possible to detect the variations on the accent from neighborhood to neighborhood and the surrounding townships. Some are more annoying than others. But I have a collection of friends from around the country, and you can't really say that some regional dialects are better than ours. Some, are in fact, as grating as fingernails on a chalkboard
I think NYOW is better than nay-oh but either way, if you are expecting NO and get a version of NYOWW, it is not always evident
I heard a teacher teaching a lesson on the long O sound, she had the class reciting no, go, show, blow, and really enunciating each long O vowel sound, then at the end she screamed at one her students, NYOWW you can't GOWWW to the bathroom, *cue the teacher bashing, extra points for Philadelphia bashing
On va se demerder, peut-être!
I get zinged for pronouncing "bagel" as "beggle" — which is strange, because the Philly dialect should make it "baiyyygle", shouldn't it? I'll have an aiyyg baiyygle sounds more natural than aiyyg beggle. Any advice? I want to make sure I'm mispronouncing it correctly.