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[ChiefSalsa]

Beer and Travel: Top 14 cities for beer drinkers - thestar.com


I need to get out of Utah.

[AbortedWalrus]

I had sort of just assumed that the beer culture thing was growing all over the US, but apparently it's not a big deal in most places. My brother just visited LA and said the bars there had a worse beer selection than most dives in Philly.

[Garret]

My sister lives in Edinburgh, and my brothers live in Munich and Dublin. We apparently chose our drinking cities well!

[Volanova]

Good to see Philly is getting recognition like this. I do wonder how they managed to not make mention of Monks or Eulogy though!

[OffenseTaken]

I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for including Hanoi since I've never been, but they make it sound like a particularly horrible city for beer. Did they just have to throw in a southeast Asian city?

And Milwaukee really doesn't belong.

Still, am I going to boast to all my out-of-town friends about this? Of course.

[Volanova]

I'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for including Hanoi since I've never been, but they make it sound like a particularly horrible city for beer. Did they just have to throw in a southeast Asian city?

And Milwaukee really doesn't belong.

Still, am I going to boast to all my out-of-town friends about this? Of course.

By including Tokyo and mentioning their vending machines, they seem to be basing this much on availability. However, widespread availability of adjunct lagers does not a beer city make.

[Hospitalitygirl]

By including Tokyo and mentioning their vending machines, they seem to be basing this much on availability. However, widespread availability of adjunct lagers does not a beer city make.

They also made a point of mentioning Tokyo's new and growing scene. Trust me, Tokyo-ites love their brews.

[bonzombiekitty]

As much as I love Ireland, it's not really what I would call a good beer drinking town. While, yes, a lot of beer is drunk there, every bar has the same stuff on tap: Guinness, Harp, Budweiser, and some sort of cider. Occasionally you'll find Murphy's or Kilkenny. There's just about nothing else.

Bristol, England is a surprisingly good beer town. The real ale movement has got a good hold there.

[JohnCarter]

Today beer culture is increased day by day in new generation of US.But i usually drink Beer only in late night parties held in my CA!!Buy Vending Machine

[3rd&Brown]

I had sort of just assumed that the beer culture thing was growing all over the US, but apparently it's not a big deal in most places. My brother just visited LA and said the bars there had a worse beer selection than most dives in Philly.

This. Ditto in NY.

I recently spent two weeks in NYC and made this exact observation. When I talked to friends about it up there, they all said the same thing: they named two or three restaurants with a wide beer selection and then said, "Brooklyn has good beer".

I didn't reply except to say exactly what you said about our dive bars as comparison...

NYers really hate when they're not the best at something...but I guess you don't know what you don't know.

It's just like the time an acquaintance took me to The Spotted Pig, gushing over it, saying, "this place is great...it's like a neighborhood bar that ALSO has great food". Errr...gastropub? Great. We've had them in spades for years...and for what it's worth, The Spotted Pig is the most overrated meal I've had in NY in years.

Ugh.

[Hospitalitygirl]

This. Ditto in NY.

I recently spent two weeks in NYC and made this exact observation. When I talked to friends about it up there, they all said the same thing: they named two or three restaurants with a wide beer selection and then said, "Brooklyn has good beer".

I didn't reply except to say exactly what you said about our dive bars as comparison...

NYers really hate when they're not the best at something...but I guess you don't know what you don't know.

It's just like the time an acquaintance took me to The Spotted Pig, gushing over it, saying, "this place is great...it's like a neighborhood bar that ALSO has great food". Errr...gastropub? Great. We've had them in spades for years...and for what it's worth, The Spotted Pig is the most overrated meal I've had in NY in years.

Ugh.

Dear daughter complains about this as well. There are so many places she misses here.

[Ho Chi Minh]

My only complaint is Philly still lags in having actual breweries/brewpubs. We drink a lot of good beer, but other cities are making it.

[OffenseTaken]

As much as I love Ireland, it's not really what I would call a good beer drinking town. While, yes, a lot of beer is drunk there, every bar has the same stuff on tap: Guinness, Harp, Budweiser, and some sort of cider. Occasionally you'll find Murphy's or Kilkenny. There's just about nothing else.

Bristol, England is a surprisingly good beer town. The real ale movement has got a good hold there.

Amsterdam is another town whose beer reputation precedes it, and I don't understand why. Other than Brouwerij het IJ and the brands you can get anywhere else, the beer selection there is overwhelmingly Belgian. Granted, it may be the best town in the world for Belgian beer, since 1. it's cheaper there and 2. you're not in Belgium.

[Dayman]

My only complaint is Philly still lags in having actual breweries/brewpubs. We drink a lot of good beer, but other cities are making it.

Yard's, PBC, Victory, Troegs, Flying Fish, Dogfish Head, Stoudts is lagging behind? (obviously most are not in the city proper).

[BarryG]

Amsterdam is another town whose beer reputation precedes it, and I don't understand why. Other than Brouwerij het IJ and the brands you can get anywhere else, the beer selection there is overwhelmingly Belgian. Granted, it may be the best town in the world for Belgian beer, since 1. it's cheaper there and 2. you're not in Belgium.

Philly is without a doubt the best town in the US for Belgian beer, and possibly the best outside of Belgium. When I was last in Amsterdam there were definitely great Belgian beer bars but the vast majority of bars just had a handful of poor-to-mediocre domestics.

[phillyaggie]

Yard's, PBC, Victory, Troegs, Flying Fish, Dogfish Head, Stoudts is lagging behind? (obviously most are not in the city proper).

not to mention the gastropubs with own breweries on site: Dock Street, Triumph, and Nodding Head in the city, and others like Iron Hill not too far.


Then again, to strike out on BOTH Sierra Nevada AND New Belgium's east coast expansions, and to lose both of them to Ashville, NC, shows Philly still needs some catching up to do...albeit on the business/government side of things. We have plenty of great venues and connoisseurs and homebrewers.

[Ho Chi Minh]

Yard's, PBC, Victory, Troegs, Flying Fish, Dogfish Head, Stoudts is lagging behind? (obviously most are not in the city proper).

As you noticed, most are not in Philly. That alone makes my point. But more so, most are not even remotely easily accesible to someone visiting from out of town. Freakin' Troegs is over a 100 miles away. We have tons of great beer for sale, but not much made here. PA in general comes up pretty average.

http://www.brewersassociation.org/at...perbrewery.pdf

[phillyaggie]

As you noticed, most are not in Philly. That alone makes my point. But more so, most are not even remotely easily accesible to someone visiting from out of town. Freakin' Troegs is over a 100 miles away. We have tons of great beer for sale, but not much made here. PA in general comes up pretty average.

http://www.brewersassociation.org/at...perbrewery.pdf

yeah, I hear frickin Wyoming and Alaska have the best local breweries and beer culture... top 10, for sure.

dope.

this was about city (and perhaps metro area). I bet parts of the breweries located in NJ and DE in your list are in Philly metro area, as also of course PA's.

as states with well-known and recognized breweries go, PA I would think is somewhere in top 10, alongside Cororado, California, and Oregon. Not Alaska or Wyoming, for sure.

[ChiefSalsa]

Bitch Creek. Wyoming beer. Too almond-y for my liking.

[Garret]

A few years back Philly became the only city to consume more Belgian beer than Brussels. It stood for at least a second year, and I am too lazy to check if it is still the case. Joe Sixpack's blog made a big deal of it.