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Resurrection Raided
Troopers raid popular bars for unlicensed beers: Dozens of gallons seized after 'citizen complaint' | Philadelphia Daily News | 03/08/2010
Was the anonymous report from the person on here who was accusing these guys of being "bootleggers," I wonder? I went back looking for that discussion but I couldn't dig it up.
In any event, this is just yet more evidence that the state has its head up its own backside when it comes to alcohol, particularly beer.
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maybe it was on PB? this just shows have absurd our laws are. I will be boycotting the plcb from here on out on principle. if anyone knows good wine stores in jersey or de please let me know.
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You don't know about Moore Brothers ?Originally Posted by eldondre
moore brothers wine company
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The Canals in Marleton, on Rt. 70, is good for both wine and beer.
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I'm pretty sure that discussion was here on PS. Leigh, the owner, even responded. For some reason, I can't find that thread, either.
El, in Jersey, you should check out Moore Bros. In DE, I like Total Wine on Naamans Rd in Claymont (just over the PA border, off 495).
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Yeah, it was definitely here since it's been within the last two or three months.
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The Canals on 38 is good too.
As for the raid, I stopped and had brunch at Bishop's Collar Sunday. They had Pliny the Younger on the beer list.
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I have seen Resurrection Ale and Pliny at other area establishments within the past few weeks.
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Yes, I got some of the Pliny the Younger at Bishops Collar on Thursday. It pleases me no end to know that I was drinking illegal beer.
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Someone should compile a list of *all* the bars in Philly selling unregistered beer, and tip off the PLCB. It would be hilarious if the PLCB had to raid every bar in town...
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Is this the thread you're looking for?
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So how is this an even remotely effective enforcement technique assuming there really are a few beers that should have paid the $75 to the state to eligible to be sold in the state? Like don't the state troopers and potential legal mess cost lots of state money? Doesn't the state lose tax revenue shutting down retail businesses over a wholesale issue that isn't their problem anyway?
Why not do something sensible like have the law department send a threatening letter to the beer distributor or the offending micro-brewery saying "pay your $75 registration fee or it gets doubled"? The whole thing makes no sense.
This whole thing only makes sense if they had some other agenda. Like say a big beermaker was putting pressure on state officials to mess with the retail places specializing in micros.
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I wonder if this tip was from some disgruntled neighborhood person who has a beef with one of these folks' bars.
An "anonymous" tip set off a raid like that for illegal beer? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time.
Sounds like someone called in a favor or something.
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Right, the whole competing retail business angle. It kind of makes you wonder at what point in the legal proceedings do you get to subpoena who the "anonymous tipster" was.
Obviously most of the "illegal" beers was just widely known errors on the PLCB's books and even the few that weren't are the fault of the PLCB not contacting the beer maker and distributor - not the retailer's fault.
So which other bar has it out for these three establishments? And why can't the owner's of these establishments sue the PLCB for lost income? Its the PLCB's fault that beer distributors in PA are selling kegs of "unlicensed" beers, not the retailers.
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This happens more than you think.
The average person doesn't even know that it's illegal. To me it sounds like another establishment tipped them off.
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Yeah, the bar shouldn't have to worry about the beer registrations. That should be on the distributor. The bar should only show that they got their items from a legitimate distributor. It should be on the distributor to only sell "legal" beer.
I mean, that would be what would make sense out of how the system is set up.
[QUOTE-mike penn]The average person doesn't even know that it's illegal. To me it sounds like another establishment tipped them off.[/QUOTE]
Not to mention you would probably have to be a bit of a beer geek to know what is and isn't legal. That being said, if you are a beer geek in Philly, I doubt you would rat out bars selling illegal craft beers since you would want access to them.
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sounds like the law is being applied only to them and not equally to all bars across the state?
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something definitely smells fishy about this whole thing.
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yeah, it reminds me about the Dive where a neighbor upset about parking called in a favor at L&I and they shut the bar down for "electrical violations."
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No. It was an actual thread about the Resurrection Tap House opening in which someone touted a beer that would be on tap and a poster, whose name I cannot recall, went after them furiously, accusing the owners of being "bootleggers" and saying they sold a wide selection of unlicensed beer, and went on and on about the Brewer's Art business that is referenced in the Daily News Article. As I recall, she threatened to report the restaurant to the police.
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