Norris Square the Great poverty protectors ,or just another slum lord ?

[BALLZ2BHERE]

100% Correct there Berks st and front st are Norris Squares own Berlin walls .. nothing and I mean nothing will ever become of that area ,As long as pat Decarlo and Maria sanchez are holding the apron strings to federal funding to that area ... It by far receives the most dollars per sqr.ft. than any other section in the city and has the worst performance as far as crime and blight reduction ! Jammy Moffit has a better success rate in the low income blight and drug recovery motto , but then again he is a true advocate for poor people rising to become sustainable and productive contributors to social fabric.. that would not meet NSCA's long term goals and that is to just sticking around to ... Well stick around ! and get a whole lot of money...........
Edit: Jamie Moffit project is private funded through donations and gets no tax credit for all there free work in kensington.. Double edit: I have no stake or personal dealings with the Moffit project , other than that he is a great man with a great motto.....

[Sharkfood]

100% Correct there Berks st and front st are Norris Squares own Berlin walls .. nothing and I mean nothing will ever become of that area ,As long as pat Decarlo and Maria sanchez are holding the apron strings to federal funding to that area ... It by far receives the most dollars per sqr.ft. than any other section in the city and has the worst performance as far as crime and blight reduction ! Jammy Moffit has a better success rate in the low income blight and drug recovery motto , but then again he is a true advocate for poor people rising to become sustainable and productive contributors to social fabric.. that would not meet NSCA's long term goals and that is to just sticking around to ... Well stick around ! and get a whole lot of money...........
Edit: Jamie Moffit project is private funded through donations and gets no tax credit for all there free work in kensington.. Double edit: I have no stake or personal dealings with the Moffit project , other than that he is a great man with a great motto.....

Pat DiCarlo is 68 years old and ready to retire. The next generation at NSCA is different or so I'm told. Maria Quinones is a politician I respect for a lot of reasons, not least of which is that she has stood up to Pat DiCarlo.

[BALLZ2BHERE]

Respect is a whole different issue than trust, Pat Decarlo ain't going any where she live,eats,sleeps and sh** NSCA they probably have there own form of drop and the old bat has retired and come back twice already ! and as far as new blood , guess hitlers youth where great kids also !

[thesomersteam]

Did anyone catch who the lawyer for WCRP mentioned as approving the low income housing project and lives on Hope St?? He named the drug dealer who lives on the block. Everyone thought he was talking about his son who shares his same name, but he didn't say JR so the lawyer was talking about the father who deals drugs right out of his house and right on Hope St until the older ladies on my block yell at him and chase him and his junkies down the street (I love these ladies). .

I love those ladies too!

[kdlewis6]

um...when did she stand up to Norris Sq? I was at that meeting and it was for show...norris sq people were screaming at her 'we own your a**' so you really think she stood up to her? Funny how she will do it when it's next to her house, but when it's next to mine, she has no problem with 25 families being shoved in a 5 lot back alley way over crowding the 17 houses that already have no parking. She came out in support of the project next to mine, but was sending me letter after letter when it was next to her house. She gave her support along with the resident drug dealer on my street who seems really happy to have 25 low income families crammed into a little space with only one entrance in and out on hope st and no eyes and ears about to keep the kids safe at the ZBA meeting last week.

I have been a life long ultra liberal staunch democrat who at one time contributed to campaigns. I am so disgusted with the politics in this city I am only going to vote Republican for any one in the state of Pennsylvania. I asked for help and Maria's office couldn't even return emails or office visit until I found out they were helping my more politically connected friend from college.

[kdlewis6]

word on the street is that Pat will move to spain because of some 'supposed investigation her civic is under'and has been prepping for that for awhile to flee...who knows, and what difference does that make for me? Why should I want a director of a civic association to retire. Aren't they supposed to be advocates for the community. That's what her organizations missions seems to say.

Something is wrong when in America you have to hope a non elected officer of a non public office 'retires' so that your own life and freedoms get better. To me that sounds like a dictatorship waiting for a dicator to die so you can be free.

[BALLZ2BHERE]

I would find it very interesting if the people who have been displaced by NSCA are as supportive after there displacement , seeing the fact that even with all the above mentions ,They never fall short on supporters !
Behooves me to think this would even happen on this level if it where private funds from people with the means to fight back !

[kdlewis6]

you raise a good point. If you really cared about low income, why are you doing that you need to sue so many of your tenants for rent? Aren't you advising them so they don't end up with rental judgements against them?? And why are you charging them an amount they can't obsviously afford if you need to sue them for so much money? And how do they end up oweing you so much money. Isn't there rent subsidized by tax payers? I thought low income people might pay 40 bucks a month and public assistance pays the other 600 for the market rate cost of the apartment? So how is a person who only pays $40 bucks a month towards their subsidized rent ending up with a judgement for thousands of dollars??

The one person I know who lives in subsidized housing pays her rent. Don't they review your finances and verify your income and stablilty before they rent to you? How could someone on assistance end up with a judgement for thousands in rent? Now that same person probably has to take her family and try to stay with a relative who owns their own home cause no one is going to rent to them with that kind of judgement. And if they are really low income, they would probably struggle to cover that size judgement also. And why would PHA or whoever subsidizes their rent work with these type of nonprofits who clearly have no financial controls in who they rent to and how they collect the rent. Thats a lot of judgements. If you always have deadbeat subsidized renters, you might want to look at your renting procedures and controls. Also why would investors give money to nonprofits who can't even collect the rent of city or state (I don't know which public coffer pays for this) subsidized person to help them build more projects that they only rent to people who don't even pay their $40 a month so they kick them out and sue them...

Sorry I am rambling, but it doesn't make any sense....just like cramming 25 families in a 5 lot space that costs more public money to build then a vacant shovel ready larger lot where there is a better quality of life for your tenants?? makes no sense at all...

[JePense]

And thats the part that behooves me , why would any one not want to improve there quality of life ? It is more like being held back for financial gain for a couple of very powerful people ,who need to be put in check ,or put in a part of the city that would benefit from this thinking !

I would find it very interesting if the people who have been displaced by NSCA are as supportive after there displacement , seeing the fact that even with all the above mentions ,They never fall short on supporters !
Behooves me to think this would even happen on this level if it where private funds from people with the means to fight back !

Definition of "Behoove"

[BALLZ2BHERE]

Definition of "Behoove"

Behoove means to be necessary or appropriate for. (verb)
It would behoove you to be nicer to those who could help you.

[BALLZ2BHERE]

Behoove means to be necessary or appropriate for. (verb)
It would behoove you to be nicer to those who could help you.

May I ask you to stay on topic and not mince meanings or content of posters ,If you have a personal agenda in that please be forth with in your intentions !

[Sharkfood]

um...when did she stand up to Norris Sq? I was at that meeting and it was for show...norris sq people were screaming at her 'we own your a**' so you really think she stood up to her? Funny how she will do it when it's next to her house, but when it's next to mine, she has no problem with 25 families being shoved in a 5 lot back alley way over crowding the 17 houses that already have no parking. She came out in support of the project next to mine, but was sending me letter after letter when it was next to her house. She gave her support along with the resident drug dealer on my street who seems really happy to have 25 low income families crammed into a little space with only one entrance in and out on hope st and no eyes and ears about to keep the kids safe at the ZBA meeting last week.

I have been a life long ultra liberal staunch democrat who at one time contributed to campaigns. I am so disgusted with the politics in this city I am only going to vote Republican for any one in the state of Pennsylvania. I asked for help and Maria's office couldn't even return emails or office visit until I found out they were helping my more politically connected friend from college.

I disagree. First of all, you're confusing the WCRP project with the NSCA project. She had the entire NSCA project reworked into something different and less dense.

She has two very talented legislative assistants, Justin DiBerardinis, the son of the well respected, Parks and Rec Commissioner and Jennifer Kates, a Penn Law grad who gave up a lucrative career
to pursue public interest work. Compare that to some of the hacks in the other councilpeople's offices.

She's very accessible to both businesses and community groups. She has a transparent process for disposing of vacant land in her district. She has supported Bill Green's bills to reform the business privilege tax (which haven't gotten the attention they deserve). I could go on. She's not perfect, but this would be a better city if we had more people like her on council.

[BALLZ2BHERE]

[QUOTE=Sharkfood;523668]I disagree. First of all, you're confusing the WCRP project with the NSCA project. She had the entire NSCA project reworked into something different and less dense.

sure across the street from her house ,now have a seat !
No one ever said she was not likable , or respected !
Trust any politician and your a bigger fool then , WELL . SHARKFOOD?

[kdlewis6]

Really, because I called her office last year when my block captain hear a rumor about the bank and I was looking for information. She never called me back. I later stopped by her office because I wanted to get a solar trash can on my block and Norris Sq gave me a blank look and said they couldn't help me. I was also concerned because I had talked to WCRP and was told by Jill they were building apartments to house the people who lived on 1900 N Howard St because there houses were built poorly. That sounded quite idiotic so I turned to MQS in both email, phone and office visit. I had to follow up my office visit with another email to MQS because a woman I named in the email was talking about drugs on Waterloo St and told me she would give a Pat (I had no idea who that was at the time) a call, etc..just bizarre behavior. I never heard back from MQS.

So maybe to you she's accessbile, but please do not deny my experience with her office. Other friends have had the same experience with her when they go to see help or guidance on issues involving real estate. No answer or response. I can get an answer from my state senator much more quickly and a lot more politely from my state senator and her staff than from MQS. I even discussed their lack of response with Dan who lives in my neighborhood because he's gotten some very terse emails from me because of their lack of concern and accessibility.

I am not confusing any nonprofit or goverenmental organization or plan for the bank. NCSA and WCRP are working together to develop the land on the bank. You didn't make the zoning meeting like you said you wouldn't but Pat and Nora sat outside the hearing and talked over plans with the attorney and their random witnessess they brought in and all left together after a cheerleading session outside the building after the ZBA hearing. Also when Nora from WCRP was in my house, being rude and unprofessional, she told me that she got Pat DeCarlo to offer me YUC's parking lot for $10 a month because of their 25 apartments being built on my little alley way street that already doesn't have any parking.

I have friends who are friends with those assistants and I am sure they are nice people. I heard MQS is nice too, but how dare you insult my experience with her office.

[Sharkfood]

kdlewis: just speaking from my own experience and the experience of people I know in her district. can't explain why you've had a bad experience.

[kdlewis6]

kdlewis: just speaking from my own experience and the experience of people I know in her district. can't explain why you've had a bad experience.

I would have preferred your experience in all honesty, especially from my own party. But if I posted every crazy behavior or email response or explanation I received, you would be shocked. Imagine my shock to have Nora tells me every housing project she has been part of has increased the property value of the houses next door to a large scale project. I responded that my real estate agent tells me something different. I would expect an educated and knowledgeable answer because it can't be the first time she's heard that question but instead Nora becomes nasty and hostile, AS A GUEST, a surprise guest nonetheless, in my own house in front of my own child. I write an email to MQS, absolute silence is my response.

And my council woman MQS who repeatedly asked for supporrt against Norris Sq and R10A when she was going to have an overly dense housing project next to her house, shows up thru her rep Dan in support of an even more densely and expensive use of public funds shoving low income people right eye level with the el in a small no parking street. Why this lot when there are so many more suitable ones that will cost less?? Why when I ask questions, I get treated like a 3rd class person.

I don't have anywhere else to go if my street becomes packed with apartments. That dense building is going to look awful crammed on such a small lot, and my street will be mobbed with cars, people, kids, etc...I am not a renter, I own my little house on this little street, but I can't even get an audience or a respectful answer about MY PROPERTY that I own.

Maybe a republican council person will treat me with respect, and that is why I am no longer voting democrat in this city or state. I will not vote for a person who treats me like I don't even count. I do count.

[BALLZ2BHERE]

“It Really Could Be Something” — Nathaniel Popkin

http://hiddencityphila.org/2012/01/w...88381481237582

[BALLZ2BHERE]

Stopped into Nsca to see what all these issues where about and was told this was with there legal dept. I asked sense when would a civic group need a legal dept.?
they responded.with What are you a damn investigator ?
I said maybe the woman said produce a warrant,I said wow very defensive just looking to see what was up with all this talk .and was told to leave before I was arrested for trespassing . I did find the way they acted to be a bit off for a group who is so transparent !

[thesomersteam]

Stopped into Nsca to see what all these issues where about and was told this was with there legal dept. I asked sense when would a civic group need a legal dept.?
they responded.with What are you a damn investigator ?
I said maybe the woman said produce a warrant,I said wow very defensive just looking to see what was up with all this talk .and was told to leave before I was arrested for trespassing . I did find the way they acted to be a bit off for a group who is so transparent !

Maybe 100 of us can stop in for a visit ?