IRS Complaint: Norris Square Civic Association

[ArcticSplash]

As of today, NSCA has still failed to publish a tax return that was due a year ago. It's not visible on GuideStar, nor is it published on nscaonline.org, Norris Square's website.

NSCA has published its FY2011-FY2011 synopsis of its budget, here:
Financials

But as you can see, it's quite late on publicly disclosing its tax returns.


IRS Form 13909 is the remedy to force NSCA to properly disclose its financial condition, which as a 501(3)(c) registered entity, it is required by Federal Law to do.



To file a complaint:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf


Once you fill in this PDF, you can email it to eoclass [at] irs.gov, or fax it to 214-413-5415






Physical Address:
149 W Susquehanna Ave

Philadelphia, PA 19122
EIN:
23-9233412

[BALLZ2BHERE]

thats a civic ?

[Sycamore]

Why is this a problem?

[BALLZ2BHERE]

why are you even here ? O wait maybe you work there also !

[Bob_Head]

As of today, NSCA has still failed to publish a tax return that was due a year ago. It's not visible on GuideStar, nor is it published on nscaonline.org, Norris Square's website.

Can you show me anywhere in the law that it has to be published either way? I believe the law simply requires them to be made available for inspection. Have you tried simply contacting the NSCA?

[Sharkfood]

Can you show me anywhere in the law that it has to be published either way? I believe the law simply requires them to be made available for inspection. Have you tried simply contacting the NSCA?

I believe bob is correct. It need not be posted on the website. It just has to be made available for inspection and copying.

[Bob_Head]

I believe bob is correct. It need not be posted on the website. It just has to be made available for inspection and copying.

I've been involved in a couple 501(c)(3) organizations over the years and don't remember any of them having to have it on a website, just make it available upon request.

[Sycamore]

Agreed. It's a subspecialty of mine and I've never heard of any such requirement.

[Sycamore]

why are you even here ? O wait maybe you work there also !

No, I have a real job.

[thoth]

So no one actually called NSCA to ask if they had their last year's financials available?

[mixiboi]

I've been involved in a couple 501(c)(3) organizations over the years and don't remember any of them having to have it on a website, just make it available upon request.

Yeah, its a complicated thing, some Not For Profit organizations are generous in posting their 990 form online yearly in a nice graphically design format, others..not so much.

But they are not required to post them online..yet...But it is a nice thing to do for transparency.

Both GuideStar and the NSCA get their information from the IRS...so if its not there, then a bigger issue may be there(Like they didn't file their taxes).

[Cya]

I've been involved in a couple 501(c)(3) organizations over the years and don't remember any of them having to have it on a website, just make it available upon request.

I thought there was a requirement that if a citizen asked a 501c3 for a copy of the 990's they are to produce them within 3 days?

[mixiboi]

The IRS requires them to make available the last 3 years to the public.

[loveisnoise]

Another case of googling around on the internet without knowing what they're looking at.

What does Guidestar plainly say about Norris Square Civic Association?
"This organization is not required to file an annual return with the IRS."

[Cya]

Another case of googling around on the internet without knowing what they're looking at.

What does Guidestar plainly say about Norris Square Civic Association?
"This organization is not required to file an annual return with the IRS."

GuideStar doesn't trump the federal goverment.
Norris Square is a 501c3 nonprofit, therefore, they are required to file timely tax returns.
I'm not sure what peaked Artic's interest in Norris Square, but any nonprofit handling that much cash should be looked at, IMO.
Sadly, too often, no one pays attention to the nonprofits, and they go on for years spending at will. Remember Vince Fumo?

[Bob_Head]

Both GuideStar and the NSCA get their information from the IRS...so if its not there, then a bigger issue may be there(Like they didn't file their taxes).

Um, no...the NCSA doesn't get a 990 from the IRS, they file it with the IRS.

It can take up to a year (plus three months if the organization files an extention) for Guidestar to get info from the IRS, and even then the process isn't foolproof. While Guidestar, in theory, should have it, it's not a requirement that it is posted there. It would seem the simplest and most direct way to get the info is to simply ask the organization to supply it, as required.

[loveisnoise]

Nope. They do not have to file tax returns if they are under the 50k threshold. They do have to postcard a 990-N, which guidestar does not normally see in their IRS scavenger hunt.

Oh-and they only have to file a 990N once every three years-not every year.

GuideStar doesn't trump the federal goverment.
Norris Square is a 501c3 nonprofit, therefore, they are required to file timely tax returns.
I'm not sure what peaked Artic's interest in Norris Square, but any nonprofit handling that much cash should be looked at, IMO.
Sadly, too often, no one pays attention to the nonprofits, and they go on for years spending at will. Remember Vince Fumo?

[BALLZ2BHERE]

Why so many questions about artic raising lagit issues? Should norris not just be transparent with there holdings they do operate on public funds!

[loveisnoise]

Why so many questions about artic raising lagit issues? Should norris not just be transparent with there holdings they do operate on public funds!

Because it is just one more topic where he googles a lot but doesn't actually know about it.

Many Nonprofits Must File IRS Form 990-N to Stay Tax-Exempt | Nolo.com
"All nonprofits with gross receipts "normally" under $25,000 must file Form 990-N (this requirement began in tax year 2007). Your receipts will satisfy the "normally" requirement if they averaged $25,000 or less in the prior three consecutive tax years, including the year in which the return would be filed. For tax year 2010, the $25,000 threshold for filing will go up to $50,000, so more small nonprofits will be eligible to file the e-postcard in 2011."

"Filing Form 990-N is so simple that, technically speaking, the IRS doesn't even consider it to be a tax return. It should take you no more than ten or 15 minutes to complete. You don't even need to pay for a postage stamp to mail it to the IRS, because it must be sent electronically -- paper copies of the form will not be accepted. This is why the IRS calls the form an "e-Postcard."
Form 990-N is filed online through a website operated by the Urban Institute, a large nonprofit that has helped the nonprofit community with IRS compliance issues for many years. You do not need any special software, just access to the Internet and an email address for your nonprofit. Once you log on to the Urban Institute's website at e-Postcard: file your electronic IRS Form 990-N (or go to Internal Revenue Service and search for "990-N"), you will be asked to create an account before you can access the system. You'll need your nonprofit's employer identification number (EIN) to do this."

[Bob_Head]

Why so many questions about artic raising lagit issues? Should norris not just be transparent with there holdings they do operate on public funds!

I don't have any problem with him raising these issues. But before accusing anyone of not complying with the law, basic decency requires you first make the minimal effort to at least check and see if that is indeed the case. If he has asked the NSCA for their financials and they have not complied, then he has an issue. Then they have failed to comply with the law. If he hasn't done that, then he is simply leveling false, or, at best, unproven accusations. Is that "lagit" enough for you?