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    ^^^ Thank you. This came up in conversation yesterday, but I couldn't remember the details of the Altemose case.

    Somebody should firebomb Eakins oval right now, btw...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yassie View Post
    Just heard a subcontracter was beaten up yesterday-when is this going to stop!
    When they gang up on the wrong guy.

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    ^^ This would so not happen in a conceal carry and right to defend state (such as TX)! yeah, gang up on a wrong guy and you are quickly six feet under.

    Philly tolerates way too much sh(t from everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyaggie View Post
    ^^ This would so not happen in a conceal carry and right to defend state (such as TX)! yeah, gang up on a wrong guy and you are quickly six feet under.

    Philly tolerates way too much sh(t from everyone.
    You can get a license to carry a concealed firearm in PA and use it to defend yourself on the streets with PA's new Castle Law. Really, PA does have pretty lenient gun laws. Maybe not as lenient as some southern states, but probably the most lenient in the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast.
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    someone should put a camera there-wouldn't that be interesting. Maybe one of the guys throwing nails etc on the road would be arrested-hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by yassie View Post
    someone should put a camera there-wouldn't that be interesting. Maybe one of the guys throwing nails etc on the road would be arrested-hmmm
    The Pestronk brothers have put up numerous cameras around their project. Videos are all available on their website of union members doing lots of illegal things, ranging from assaulting workers at the site, blocking traffic, and sabotaging the work site. However, with the stranglehold unions have on Philadelphia politics its unlikely any of these bums will get arrested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusPontmercy View Post
    The Pestronk brothers have put up numerous cameras around their project. Videos are all available on their website of union members doing lots of illegal things, ranging from assaulting workers at the site, blocking traffic, and sabotaging the work site. However, with the stranglehold unions have on Philadelphia politics its unlikely any of these bums will get arrested.
    I call bull****, if video was available then someone post it online and youtube it and let it go viral. That would end ANY stranglehold unions have on Philadelphia politics.

    I find it funny in the this day and age that no one is using the power of the internet to end all this if they actually had video...
    ****, if you look at it, if it was for this message board, this story wouldn't even gotten two seconds of media coverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusPontmercy View Post
    The Pestronk brothers have put up numerous cameras around their project. Videos are all available on their website of union members doing lots of illegal things, ranging from assaulting workers at the site, blocking traffic, and sabotaging the work site. However, with the stranglehold unions have on Philadelphia politics its unlikely any of these bums will get arrested.
    Two were arrested a couple weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixiboi View Post
    I call bull****, if video was available then someone post it online and youtube it and let it go viral. That would end ANY stranglehold unions have on Philadelphia politics.

    I find it funny in the this day and age that no one is using the power of the internet to end all this if they actually had video...
    ****, if you look at it, if it was for this message board, this story wouldn't even gotten two seconds of media coverage.
    Here you go (from the first page of this thread):

    EDIT: That first link moved since I posted it. Corrected link below.

    http://phillybully.com/PhillyBully.c...ew_Videos.html

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDFF5D9E34BA382F4
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusPontmercy View Post
    You can get a license to carry a concealed firearm in PA and use it to defend yourself on the streets with PA's new Castle Law. Really, PA does have pretty lenient gun laws. Maybe not as lenient as some southern states, but probably the most lenient in the Mid-Atlantic/Northeast.
    Incorrect. Castle Doctrine is protecting your home. You're think of Stand Your Ground laws which PA does not have (as far as I know).

    Castle Doctrine I am pretty sure does not apply if you are confronted on a street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raider.adam View Post
    Incorrect. Castle Doctrine is protecting your home. You're think of Stand Your Ground laws which PA does not have (as far as I know).

    Castle Doctrine I am pretty sure does not apply if you are confronted on a street.
    As I recall the new Castle Doctrine applies wherever you have a "legal right to be" or something similar. I read up on it a lot when it first came out, but it's been a while. From what I recall as long as you're not committing another crime and you have a legal right to be where you are, you're allowed to use deadly force to defend yourself if you're threatened with bodily harm. I'm not a lawyer, so I would seek out some actual council before I did anything like this though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbortedWalrus View Post
    As I recall the new Castle Doctrine applies wherever you have a "legal right to be" or something similar. I read up on it a lot when it first came out, but it's been a while. From what I recall as long as you're not committing another crime and you have a legal right to be where you are, you're allowed to use deadly force to defend yourself if you're threatened with bodily harm. I'm not a lawyer, so I would seek out some actual council before I did anything like this though.
    What difference would legal counsel make if there was only one side to the story, i.e., yours? Shoot to kill every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raider.adam View Post
    Incorrect. Castle Doctrine is protecting your home. You're think of Stand Your Ground laws which PA does not have (as far as I know).

    Castle Doctrine I am pretty sure does not apply if you are confronted on a street.
    It was revised not too long ago to include any place you have a legal right to be (i.e. as long as you're not trespassing somewhere). It was a pretty big deal on these boards at that time as well. I think there's a long thread pertaining to it around somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariusPontmercy View Post
    It was revised not too long ago to include any place you have a legal right to be (i.e. as long as you're not trespassing somewhere). It was a pretty big deal on these boards at that time as well. I think there's a long thread pertaining to it around somewhere.
    My correction then. I apparently missed when it was extended from outside your abode. I didn't realize PA turned into a Stand Your Ground state.

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    There you go(Tho I would like more damming footage then slapping and hitting...), now lets get this out there and get CNN and FoxNews to blast them to hell....

    Because the only community hurting from this is the one that wants to keep Philly from moving forward without greasing their palms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malloy View Post
    OOoh, new vids

    Where was this taken?

    Oh, and I love the birdbrain on the bullhorn shouting "Philly jobs for Philly people". At least 70% of those dopes are from Jersey!
    Philly people, learn your history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swinefeld View Post
    Where was this taken?

    Oh, and I love the birdbrain on the bullhorn shouting "Philly jobs for Philly people". At least 70% of those dopes are from Jersey!
    Germantown

    These union thugs can [clean version] go take a hike. How dare they protest and say things under that guise. I can only imagine how much they put down Germantown every time they drive to it and stand there protesting.

    Post Brothers are investing in my community. The union guys are looking for ways to extract money from my community. As if it's a question as to who we should be supporting here.

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    It might be worth sending a set of links (vids, Inky stories, phillybully website,etc.) to a national media outlet - as mentioned above. I think the story would be better coming from a local resident who is fearful of walking home because of these slugs - any takers?

    Edit: Fox news would eat this crap up - especially with whole angle around lack of enforcement by local authorities due to the union political ties, etc.
    Last edited by EJW; 08-13-2012 at 09:01 AM.

 

 

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